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		<title>By: Rocky</title>
		<link>http://www.citizenofthemonth.com/2010/06/30/indirect-and-authentic/comment-page-1/#comment-242929</link>
		<dc:creator>Rocky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jul 2010 16:35:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;...[people] are being authentic to *what they want from blogging*. That’s all we learn about them. What they want from blogging. I wrote through the experience of the death of my son. Some people can’t bear to ever speak of such a thing again. Does this make me, the former, ‘more authentic’ than the latter? No. It just makes me inclined to write about it.&quot;

I completely agree with your quote above.  sometimes i need to purge my thoughts, sorrows, struggles by writing them out. For me, the writing is therapeutic, but having someone read and acknowledge their visit gives me some sort of validation. Being heard is important to me, so I guess that&#039;s my &#039;being authentic&#039;, my true motivation for blogging.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;&#8230;[people] are being authentic to *what they want from blogging*. That’s all we learn about them. What they want from blogging. I wrote through the experience of the death of my son. Some people can’t bear to ever speak of such a thing again. Does this make me, the former, ‘more authentic’ than the latter? No. It just makes me inclined to write about it.&#8221;</p>
<p>I completely agree with your quote above.  sometimes i need to purge my thoughts, sorrows, struggles by writing them out. For me, the writing is therapeutic, but having someone read and acknowledge their visit gives me some sort of validation. Being heard is important to me, so I guess that&#8217;s my &#8216;being authentic&#8217;, my true motivation for blogging.<br />
<span class="cluv">Rocky posted <a class="cb51fbe515 242929" rel="nofollow" href="http://rockyroad714.blogspot.com/2010/07/gran-torino-takes-me-for-spin.html">Jamie Cullum takes me for a spin</a></span></p>
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		<title>By: Rita Arens</title>
		<link>http://www.citizenofthemonth.com/2010/06/30/indirect-and-authentic/comment-page-1/#comment-242903</link>
		<dc:creator>Rita Arens</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jul 2010 13:53:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am so confused. I thought you used &quot;authenticity&quot; just fine. Perhaps I&#039;ve missed a chapter in this whole discussion. I think you can authentically lie, for the record. If you&#039;re a liar.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am so confused. I thought you used &#8220;authenticity&#8221; just fine. Perhaps I&#8217;ve missed a chapter in this whole discussion. I think you can authentically lie, for the record. If you&#8217;re a liar.<br />
<span class="cluv">Rita Arens posted <a class="49d1b9aea8 242903" rel="nofollow" href="http://surrenderdorothy.typepad.com/surrender_dorothy/2010/07/truth-in-blogging-2-perception-v-reality.html">Truth in Blogging 2- Perception v Reality</a></span></p>
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		<title>By: Friday Links &#124; Vicki Boykis</title>
		<link>http://www.citizenofthemonth.com/2010/06/30/indirect-and-authentic/comment-page-1/#comment-242869</link>
		<dc:creator>Friday Links &#124; Vicki Boykis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Jul 2010 13:13:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Neil on being direct and authentic [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Neil on being direct and authentic [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Patricia</title>
		<link>http://www.citizenofthemonth.com/2010/06/30/indirect-and-authentic/comment-page-1/#comment-242865</link>
		<dc:creator>Patricia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Jul 2010 03:36:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maybe it&#039;s just me, but I don&#039;t expect people to be too authentic in a bar.  If you are attractive (shoot me - it&#039;s a bar.  I&#039;m shallow), have a sense of humor, and don&#039;t bore me,  it&#039;s all good - authentic or no.

As for blogging personae:  are we actually who others think we are, who we think we are, or who we think others think we are?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe it&#8217;s just me, but I don&#8217;t expect people to be too authentic in a bar.  If you are attractive (shoot me &#8211; it&#8217;s a bar.  I&#8217;m shallow), have a sense of humor, and don&#8217;t bore me,  it&#8217;s all good &#8211; authentic or no.</p>
<p>As for blogging personae:  are we actually who others think we are, who we think we are, or who we think others think we are?</p>
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		<title>By: BHJ</title>
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		<dc:creator>BHJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Jul 2010 01:41:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Being authentic is so mid-last century.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Being authentic is so mid-last century.<br />
<span class="cluv">BHJ posted <a class="8b1111b0f7 242863" rel="nofollow" href="http://thebhj.com/journal/2010/7/1/6-month-update-the-365-bhj-fitness-regime.html">6 MONTH UPDATE- The 365 BHJ Fitness Regime</a></span></p>
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		<title>By: Major Bedhead</title>
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		<dc:creator>Major Bedhead</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jul 2010 22:36:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t know that anyone can be authentic when you put another person in the picture.  You are always adjusting to the emotion or context of whatever situation you&#039;re in, which, by default, is inauthentic. Everyone wears a lot of hats - work, home, parent (if you are one), child, friend, customer, blogger, commenter. And every one of those hats has a slightly different (or sometimes drastically different) personality, thereby removing some small portion of our authentic self. 

Jesus, my head hurts now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t know that anyone can be authentic when you put another person in the picture.  You are always adjusting to the emotion or context of whatever situation you&#8217;re in, which, by default, is inauthentic. Everyone wears a lot of hats &#8211; work, home, parent (if you are one), child, friend, customer, blogger, commenter. And every one of those hats has a slightly different (or sometimes drastically different) personality, thereby removing some small portion of our authentic self. </p>
<p>Jesus, my head hurts now.<br />
<span class="cluv">Major Bedhead posted <a class="864bf75d33 242861" rel="nofollow" href="http://majorbedhead.wordpress.com/2010/06/29/paterfamilias/">Paterfamilias</a></span></p>
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		<title>By: ingrid</title>
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		<dc:creator>ingrid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jul 2010 22:11:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Authentic Schmauthentic.

I don&#039;t think blogging is about rules or a quest to find the right way to blog. I feel like this exercise results in different self-righteous camps and/or insecurity.

I have the feeling that a lot of discussion ends up as a quest to define &quot;the 10 commandments of blogging&quot; ... but not matter how much you light bushes on fire and wait for that booming voice, you will always have different voices.

I think blogs, quite simply, reflect the people that write them. It reflects their motives, attitudes and beliefs... their view and experience of the world and what is/isn&#039;t important to them. Those differences are precisely why they are wonderful. Even the artifice reflects a belief-- &quot;I won&#039;t be acceptable unless I write this way&quot; or &quot;I will impress people if I write this way&quot;. 

We&#039;re human: flawed, confused, happy, sad, mixed-up, lovable, detestable, sleezy, sweet, delightful and hateful. 

My own belief is that blogging is not a flat playing field anymore than novels are. I love to read something trashy and artificial on vacation: it frees me from real life worries and it suits my expectations. Similarly, if I want my heart to soar or weep, I love Anne Tyler or Alice Munroe or Richard Russo... 

We need to be critical readers and blogs need to be just what they are. What that person has chosen it to be. Sure there are probably a million &quot;best practices&quot; for different types of blogging and different intentions behind blogs... but I&#039;m dousing my burning bush. (And now I&#039;m laughing... because I have a dirty mind...)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Authentic Schmauthentic.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think blogging is about rules or a quest to find the right way to blog. I feel like this exercise results in different self-righteous camps and/or insecurity.</p>
<p>I have the feeling that a lot of discussion ends up as a quest to define &#8220;the 10 commandments of blogging&#8221; &#8230; but not matter how much you light bushes on fire and wait for that booming voice, you will always have different voices.</p>
<p>I think blogs, quite simply, reflect the people that write them. It reflects their motives, attitudes and beliefs&#8230; their view and experience of the world and what is/isn&#8217;t important to them. Those differences are precisely why they are wonderful. Even the artifice reflects a belief&#8211; &#8220;I won&#8217;t be acceptable unless I write this way&#8221; or &#8220;I will impress people if I write this way&#8221;. </p>
<p>We&#8217;re human: flawed, confused, happy, sad, mixed-up, lovable, detestable, sleezy, sweet, delightful and hateful. </p>
<p>My own belief is that blogging is not a flat playing field anymore than novels are. I love to read something trashy and artificial on vacation: it frees me from real life worries and it suits my expectations. Similarly, if I want my heart to soar or weep, I love Anne Tyler or Alice Munroe or Richard Russo&#8230; </p>
<p>We need to be critical readers and blogs need to be just what they are. What that person has chosen it to be. Sure there are probably a million &#8220;best practices&#8221; for different types of blogging and different intentions behind blogs&#8230; but I&#8217;m dousing my burning bush. (And now I&#8217;m laughing&#8230; because I have a dirty mind&#8230;)<br />
<span class="cluv">ingrid posted <a class="941b8cf277 242860" rel="nofollow" href="http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/icecreamisnicecream/hSJU/~3/qTphlkW9iuU/conan-barbarian-musical.html">conan the barbarian- the musical</a></span></p>
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		<title>By: Neil</title>
		<link>http://www.citizenofthemonth.com/2010/06/30/indirect-and-authentic/comment-page-1/#comment-242859</link>
		<dc:creator>Neil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jul 2010 17:56:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Deb -

You are also the perfect person to ask about humor.  Authentic or not?  My real life is kinda messy right now, more about death and dying than anything amusing.  But at the same time, I write tweets to Canadian women about their beavers.   Online, I am considered &quot;funny,&quot; but I don&#039;t consider myself funny.   Are you or the Bloggess being authentic when you write something humor based?  Of course you are.   And you are authentic when you don&#039;t.  

Actually, the best thing for my writing is to learn to write in different voices so I can have characters that speak differently.  I&#039;ve tried a few times to post as if it was written by a woman -- and it usually failed, because I guess if felt inauthentic.  But I would like to perfect that voice that isn&#039;t me, until it is so inauthentic that it fools you into thinking it IS authentic.  

Then I will be a writer!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Deb -</p>
<p>You are also the perfect person to ask about humor.  Authentic or not?  My real life is kinda messy right now, more about death and dying than anything amusing.  But at the same time, I write tweets to Canadian women about their beavers.   Online, I am considered &#8220;funny,&#8221; but I don&#8217;t consider myself funny.   Are you or the Bloggess being authentic when you write something humor based?  Of course you are.   And you are authentic when you don&#8217;t.  </p>
<p>Actually, the best thing for my writing is to learn to write in different voices so I can have characters that speak differently.  I&#8217;ve tried a few times to post as if it was written by a woman &#8212; and it usually failed, because I guess if felt inauthentic.  But I would like to perfect that voice that isn&#8217;t me, until it is so inauthentic that it fools you into thinking it IS authentic.  </p>
<p>Then I will be a writer!</p>
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		<title>By: sweetsalty kate</title>
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		<dc:creator>sweetsalty kate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jul 2010 17:32:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What I mean is that I am proposing to Deb Rox next to a creek that bubbles audibly. Which makes it more romantic. SO THERE.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What I mean is that I am proposing to Deb Rox next to a creek that bubbles audibly. Which makes it more romantic. SO THERE.<br />
<span class="cluv">sweetsalty kate posted <a class="940b093501 242858" rel="nofollow" href="http://www.sweetsalty.com/sweetsalty/2010/6/16/resurrection-his-and-mine.html">resurrection- his and mine</a></span></p>
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		<title>By: sweetsalty kate</title>
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		<dc:creator>sweetsalty kate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jul 2010 17:31:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Deb Rox, will you marry me? (gets down on one knee with audible creek)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Deb Rox, will you marry me? (gets down on one knee with audible creek)<br />
<span class="cluv">sweetsalty kate posted <a class="94964691a8 242857" rel="nofollow" href="http://www.sweetsalty.com/sweetsalty/2010/6/16/resurrection-his-and-mine.html">resurrection- his and mine</a></span></p>
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