Comments on: Size 20 http://www.citizenofthemonth.com/2006/10/04/size-20/ the personal blog of Neil Kramer Mon, 06 Feb 2012 14:48:55 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Jean Paul Gaultier – Plus Size Runway Debacle? http://www.citizenofthemonth.com/2006/10/04/size-20/comment-page-2/#comment-248705 Jean Paul Gaultier – Plus Size Runway Debacle? Mon, 20 Dec 2010 22:47:49 +0000 http://www.citizenofthemonth.com/2006/10/04/size-20/#comment-248705 [...] I couldn’t find the video of this yet, but you all know that models typically walk the runway without expression, perhaps a wink or a smirk on the turn, but other than that, nothing. This girl was flailing her arms around in a failed attempt at looking seductive, and making all sorts of facial expressions – full out twisting of her face, not just a wink or a lick lip or something. It’s almost as if she didn’t take this as a serious opportunity either. Neil Kramer agrees sort of… [...] [...] I couldn’t find the video of this yet, but you all know that models typically walk the runway without expression, perhaps a wink or a smirk on the turn, but other than that, nothing. This girl was flailing her arms around in a failed attempt at looking seductive, and making all sorts of facial expressions – full out twisting of her face, not just a wink or a lick lip or something. It’s almost as if she didn’t take this as a serious opportunity either. Neil Kramer agrees sort of… [...]

]]> By: Hugh Mungus http://www.citizenofthemonth.com/2006/10/04/size-20/comment-page-2/#comment-237013 Hugh Mungus Sun, 19 Jul 2009 04:24:55 +0000 http://www.citizenofthemonth.com/2006/10/04/size-20/#comment-237013 You know, here's an amazing thought... maybe the eating disorders at your daughters school should not be blamed on runway models, but instead seen as a backlash against all the disgusting obesity in our every day lives. You know, here’s an amazing thought… maybe the eating disorders at your daughters school should not be blamed on runway models, but instead seen as a backlash against all the disgusting obesity in our every day lives.

]]> By: angie, size 20 woman http://www.citizenofthemonth.com/2006/10/04/size-20/comment-page-2/#comment-236479 angie, size 20 woman Sat, 30 May 2009 16:26:14 +0000 http://www.citizenofthemonth.com/2006/10/04/size-20/#comment-236479 marilyn monroe is considered one of the most beautiful women EVER!! I bet you didnt know she was a size 14. with these skinny models today the fashion designers are really just sending their clothing down the run way on hangers! bravo to this woman for having the guts to show the world that the is beautiful!!! I wish I would have been walking behind her! marilyn monroe is considered one of the most beautiful women EVER!! I bet you didnt know she was a size 14. with these skinny models today the fashion designers are really just sending their clothing down the run way on hangers! bravo to this woman for having the guts to show the world that the is beautiful!!! I wish I would have been walking behind her!

]]> By: alice http://www.citizenofthemonth.com/2006/10/04/size-20/comment-page-2/#comment-104683 alice Thu, 12 Oct 2006 18:03:11 +0000 http://www.citizenofthemonth.com/2006/10/04/size-20/#comment-104683 i think we have to see the fashion world as a BUISINESS the reason most models are size 0, is because clothes look better on skinny women and for the size of the average model to change, you would have to change a lot of things about the whole fashion industry. i think we have to see the fashion world as a BUISINESS
the reason most models are size 0, is because clothes look better on skinny women
and for the size of the average model to change, you would have to change a lot of things about the whole fashion industry.

]]> By: Jean Paul Gaultier - Plus Size Runway Debacle? - Aspiring Plus Size Model Loses Weight http://www.citizenofthemonth.com/2006/10/04/size-20/comment-page-2/#comment-103315 Jean Paul Gaultier - Plus Size Runway Debacle? - Aspiring Plus Size Model Loses Weight Sun, 08 Oct 2006 16:20:35 +0000 http://www.citizenofthemonth.com/2006/10/04/size-20/#comment-103315 [...] I couldn’t find the video of this yet, but you all know that models typically walk the runway without expression, perhaps a wink or a smirk on the turn, but other than that, nothing. This girl was flailing her arms around in a failed attempt at looking seductive, and making all sorts of facial expressions - full out twisting of her face, not just a wink or a lick lip or something. It’s almost as if she didn’t take this as a serious opportunity either. Neil Kramer agrees sort of… [...] [...] I couldn’t find the video of this yet, but you all know that models typically walk the runway without expression, perhaps a wink or a smirk on the turn, but other than that, nothing. This girl was flailing her arms around in a failed attempt at looking seductive, and making all sorts of facial expressions – full out twisting of her face, not just a wink or a lick lip or something. It’s almost as if she didn’t take this as a serious opportunity either. Neil Kramer agrees sort of… [...]

]]> By: cmhl http://www.citizenofthemonth.com/2006/10/04/size-20/comment-page-2/#comment-103313 cmhl Sun, 08 Oct 2006 15:03:23 +0000 http://www.citizenofthemonth.com/2006/10/04/size-20/#comment-103313 she isn't a size 20.. unless she is really short... she isn’t a size 20.. unless she is really short…

]]> By: Karla http://www.citizenofthemonth.com/2006/10/04/size-20/comment-page-2/#comment-103312 Karla Sun, 08 Oct 2006 14:39:36 +0000 http://www.citizenofthemonth.com/2006/10/04/size-20/#comment-103312 That's one surly-looking model. That’s one surly-looking model.

]]> By: helz http://www.citizenofthemonth.com/2006/10/04/size-20/comment-page-2/#comment-103311 helz Sun, 08 Oct 2006 14:23:01 +0000 http://www.citizenofthemonth.com/2006/10/04/size-20/#comment-103311 if these designers are so good, why can't they make clothes that look good on women of all sizes, not just on size 0 models? if these designers are so good, why can’t they make clothes that look good on women of all sizes, not just on size 0 models?

]]> By: Neil http://www.citizenofthemonth.com/2006/10/04/size-20/comment-page-2/#comment-102635 Neil Fri, 06 Oct 2006 17:20:31 +0000 http://www.citizenofthemonth.com/2006/10/04/size-20/#comment-102635 I've always heard that argument that clothing fits better on size 0 models, but I'm not sure why this would be true -- unless it was clothes for size 0 models. I’ve always heard that argument that clothing fits better on size 0 models, but I’m not sure why this would be true — unless it was clothes for size 0 models.

]]> By: Lynn http://www.citizenofthemonth.com/2006/10/04/size-20/comment-page-2/#comment-102630 Lynn Fri, 06 Oct 2006 17:00:48 +0000 http://www.citizenofthemonth.com/2006/10/04/size-20/#comment-102630 I think that most people need to realize that designers want thin models because clothing fits better on thinner women, that is a matter of fact (the same can be said for male models--but no one ever mentions that now do they?) In the end this is a runway show meant to sell the season's line and models are chosen as one would choose the best clothing hangers for a collection represented on a rack in a showroom. Unfortunately many designers are mixing their design and tailoring skills with their whispy political beliefs and it leaves us all wondering what the fuck it all means. In the end, I don't think even Mr. Gaultier knew what he meant by what he did. Remember, he is one of Madonna's (Queen of Shock Value) top designers. I can tell you this: that "poor" fat girl wearing the undies was paid well and is most likely more proud of her skin and bones than most of us reading your blog and for that we mustn't feel sorry. I think that most people need to realize that designers want thin models because clothing fits better on thinner women, that is a matter of fact (the same can be said for male models–but no one ever mentions that now do they?) In the end this is a runway show meant to sell the season’s line and models are chosen as one would choose the best clothing hangers for a collection represented on a rack in a showroom.

Unfortunately many designers are mixing their design and tailoring skills with their whispy political beliefs and it leaves us all wondering what the fuck it all means. In the end, I don’t think even Mr. Gaultier knew what he meant by what he did. Remember, he is one of Madonna’s (Queen of Shock Value) top designers.

I can tell you this: that “poor” fat girl wearing the undies was paid well and is most likely more proud of her skin and bones than most of us reading your blog and for that we mustn’t feel sorry.

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