Comments on: Fat People http://www.citizenofthemonth.com/2006/05/07/fat-people/ Neil Kramer is a writer in Los Angeles (well, New York now). Citizen of the Month is his blog. Make yourself at home. Fri, 05 Dec 2008 10:42:17 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.5 By: FredericaBimble http://www.citizenofthemonth.com/2006/05/07/fat-people/#comment-222607 FredericaBimble Thu, 13 Mar 2008 20:26:07 +0000 http://www.citizenofthemonth.com/2006/05/07/fat-people/#comment-222607 Update: That should read 'dessert' and not 'desert' but in the case of the subject, maybe a desert wouldn't go amiss. Also, I know I spelled 'occasional' incorrectly as well... to all you spelling police out there....Ha, ha, ha, ha. Update: That should read ‘dessert’ and not ‘desert’ but in the case of the subject, maybe a desert wouldn’t go amiss.
Also, I know I spelled ‘occasional’ incorrectly as well… to all you spelling police out there….Ha, ha, ha, ha.

]]> By: FredericaBimble http://www.citizenofthemonth.com/2006/05/07/fat-people/#comment-222606 FredericaBimble Thu, 13 Mar 2008 20:20:57 +0000 http://www.citizenofthemonth.com/2006/05/07/fat-people/#comment-222606 These arguments and the blog itself could only come about from a wealthy nation. Food is fuel. That is what it is. We may get enjoyment from it through the sensations, texture and smells from eating food but it is fuel for our bodies. The issue of 'weight loss' and the 'moralising' of fat would become a non-issue in a developing country. People who live in poor countries eat when they are hungry because they know that food will keep them alive and not to fulfill some emotional void. Anyone of the fat people in the US - barring those with actual medical reasons for the extra weight which is extremely rare - would not be fat in countries where food is not plentiful. Sounds silly but seems to be a logical statement that so many people deny. I read the last post and I think this person 'Jean Brockman' gives an interesting clue to the problem of obesity in America. Her post reads like a put down to another and invitation to a competition to see who can get the fattest. Yes, a US size 14 and large breasts is 'buxom'. This poster, Jean Brockman, is most likely really fat but it really isn't a competition. She would do better to ask herself what she has done for the rest of the world instead of bragging about being large. On a different note, I am a thin woman. I'm average at the moment but when I train for marathons, I get quite slim. When I worked with a bunch of overweight women who would make comments such as: 'Oh, I'm being so bad, I shouldn't eat this' - when they were eating a slice of chocolate cake or some other fattening item, I would simply say: 'Ok, then, don't eat it if it's going to cause you so much despair'. Food isn't 'bad'. It isn't 'good' (yes, it can taste good and yes it can spoil, therefore being labelled 'bad' but that isn't what we're talking about here) People put emotional labels on food and forget too easily that it is energy to make our bodies run. When I went to visit my mother who lives in the Southern United States, I was bombarded with her and my sister coming out with 'you're too skinny' or 'you need to put some meat on those bones' and other such comments. I finally said: Actually, YOU could do with eating balanced meals, having the occassional desert or snack and going for walks to burn off the excess calories you're carrying. I went on to say: 'I look in the mirror and I like my body. I think my body looks great'. That shut them up. It IS a case of misery loves company and fat does beget fat. I stayed at my mother's home for about 3 weeks and after hearing their comments, eventually, I ended up compulsively eating pretty much everything in my sight and continuing this when I got back to the UK. I ended up putting on about 30 extra pounds which luckily I lost by going back to being sensible. I remember the lack of control and fury I felt towards my mother for drumming it into me to 'eat, eat, eat'....I'm happy that I look in the mirror and see a fit and healthy body now. If I come across these 'fat and happy' women who try to say to me: 'You need to put some meat on your bones'....I say: 'No, I don't. You need to lose weight and stop lying to yourself and the rest of the world that you're 'happy'. You see, truly happy people don't tell the rest of the world how to live. That is more a sign of discontentment. If you're happy, you don't go around announcing to the world that you're 'happy' as in the case of the poster who wrote: 'I'm 1-X and I'm a happy camper.' Well, good for you, 'honey' now go share that happiness by helping others and making yourself useful. I, for one, do not feel 'happy' at this moment. I have work I need to do and do not feel motivated so I feel more 'disillusioned' than 'happy' but let's not split hairs. These arguments and the blog itself could only come about from a wealthy nation. Food is fuel. That is what it is. We may get enjoyment from it through the sensations, texture and smells from eating food but it is fuel for our bodies. The issue of ‘weight loss’ and the ‘moralising’ of fat would become a non-issue in a developing country. People who live in poor countries eat when they are hungry because they know that food will keep them alive and not to fulfill some emotional void. Anyone of the fat people in the US - barring those with actual medical reasons for the extra weight which is extremely rare - would not be fat in countries where food is not plentiful. Sounds silly but seems to be a logical statement that so many people deny.
I read the last post and I think this person ‘Jean Brockman’ gives an interesting clue to the problem of obesity in America. Her post reads like a put down to another and invitation to a competition to see who can get the fattest. Yes, a US size 14 and large breasts is ‘buxom’. This poster, Jean Brockman, is most likely really fat but it really isn’t a competition. She would do better to ask herself what she has done for the rest of the world instead of bragging about being large.
On a different note, I am a thin woman. I’m average at the moment but when I train for marathons, I get quite slim. When I worked with a bunch of overweight women who would make comments such as: ‘Oh, I’m being so bad, I shouldn’t eat this’ - when they were eating a slice of chocolate cake or some other fattening item, I would simply say: ‘Ok, then, don’t eat it if it’s going to cause you so much despair’.
Food isn’t ‘bad’. It isn’t ‘good’ (yes, it can taste good and yes it can spoil, therefore being labelled ‘bad’ but that isn’t what we’re talking about here) People put emotional labels on food and forget too easily that it is energy to make our bodies run.
When I went to visit my mother who lives in the Southern United States, I was bombarded with her and my sister coming out with ‘you’re too skinny’ or ‘you need to put some meat on those bones’ and other such comments. I finally said: Actually, YOU could do with eating balanced meals, having the occassional desert or snack and going for walks to burn off the excess calories you’re carrying. I went on to say: ‘I look in the mirror and I like my body. I think my body looks great’. That shut them up.
It IS a case of misery loves company and fat does beget fat. I stayed at my mother’s home for about 3 weeks and after hearing their comments, eventually, I ended up compulsively eating pretty much everything in my sight and continuing this when I got back to the UK. I ended up putting on about 30 extra pounds which luckily I lost by going back to being sensible. I remember the lack of control and fury I felt towards my mother for drumming it into me to ‘eat, eat, eat’….I’m happy that I look in the mirror and see a fit and healthy body now. If I come across these ‘fat and happy’ women who try to say to me: ‘You need to put some meat on your bones’….I say: ‘No, I don’t. You need to lose weight and stop lying to yourself and the rest of the world that you’re ‘happy’. You see, truly happy people don’t tell the rest of the world how to live. That is more a sign of discontentment. If you’re happy, you don’t go around announcing to the world that you’re ‘happy’ as in the case of the poster who wrote: ‘I’m 1-X and I’m a happy camper.’ Well, good for you, ‘honey’ now go share that happiness by helping others and making yourself useful.
I, for one, do not feel ‘happy’ at this moment. I have work I need to do and do not feel motivated so I feel more ‘disillusioned’ than ‘happy’ but let’s not split hairs.

]]> By: Jean Brockman http://www.citizenofthemonth.com/2006/05/07/fat-people/#comment-215976 Jean Brockman Thu, 25 Oct 2007 21:43:41 +0000 http://www.citizenofthemonth.com/2006/05/07/fat-people/#comment-215976 Hi Neil, I was surfing in search of the origin of the phrase "jew down the price" and came across your post. Appreciate you and to the lady signed a buxom size 14, honey you ain't even in the neighborhood of buxom. I'm 1-X and I'm a happy camper. :) Hi Neil, I was surfing in search of the origin of the phrase “jew down the price” and came across your post. Appreciate you and to the lady signed a buxom size 14, honey you ain’t even in the neighborhood of buxom. I’m 1-X and I’m a happy camper. :)

]]> By: evita http://www.citizenofthemonth.com/2006/05/07/fat-people/#comment-213799 evita Sun, 12 Aug 2007 09:51:49 +0000 http://www.citizenofthemonth.com/2006/05/07/fat-people/#comment-213799 l00k i like nicole richie's b0dy and she is so skinny bUt her outfit l00ks absolutely perfect on her d0n't y0u think s0??.... l00k i like nicole richie’s b0dy and she is so skinny bUt her outfit l00ks absolutely perfect on her d0n’t y0u think s0??….

]]> By: Kaylie http://www.citizenofthemonth.com/2006/05/07/fat-people/#comment-213607 Kaylie Tue, 07 Aug 2007 07:49:33 +0000 http://www.citizenofthemonth.com/2006/05/07/fat-people/#comment-213607 I wish men were as demonized about their inability to make their cocks bigger as women are about their "fat asses". So I decided to take it upon myself to do that. I'm not fat, but I have tons of friends who are. THey are briliiant, funny, ACTIVE, sexy, and completely multifaceted. When a guy (with a itty bitty peter) was trashing one of my girls I was like, "Well, I suppose she could ditch that weight, but what are you do about your 3 inch cock?" Cock size like body (particularly body that hasn't been destroyed by years of dieting and foolishness) size is largely due to genetics. There isn't always a lot you can do about it. Demonizing fat people is so ridiculous to me. It always comes from people who don't really understand bodies and what are capable of doing and what they aren't capable of doing. I know, because I used to be one of you assholes. And then a really really great friend had WLS (weight loss surgery) and died. She was 27. She was amazing and I haven't gotten over her. I feel like I killed her. All the times I pretended not to notice jerks laughing about her weight. All the times I ignored how uncomfortable she got when couldn't find things to fit. All the times I just assumed if she stopped eating so much and moved her lasy ass... Yeah, boy good thing she had me as a friend! I wish men were as demonized about their inability to make their cocks bigger as women are about their “fat asses”. So I decided to take it upon myself to do that. I’m not fat, but I have tons of friends who are. THey are briliiant, funny, ACTIVE, sexy, and completely multifaceted. When a guy (with a itty bitty peter) was trashing one of my girls I was like, “Well, I suppose she could ditch that weight, but what are you do about your 3 inch cock?”

Cock size like body (particularly body that hasn’t been destroyed by years of dieting and foolishness) size is largely due to genetics. There isn’t always a lot you can do about it. Demonizing fat people is so ridiculous to me. It always comes from people who don’t really understand bodies and what are capable of doing and what they aren’t capable of doing.

I know, because I used to be one of you assholes. And then a really really great friend had WLS (weight loss surgery) and died. She was 27. She was amazing and I haven’t gotten over her. I feel like I killed her. All the times I pretended not to notice jerks laughing about her weight. All the times I ignored how uncomfortable she got when couldn’t find things to fit. All the times I just assumed if she stopped eating so much and moved her lasy ass…

Yeah, boy good thing she had me as a friend!

]]> By: Citizen of the Month » Do You Do Yoga? http://www.citizenofthemonth.com/2006/05/07/fat-people/#comment-197102 Citizen of the Month » Do You Do Yoga? Mon, 07 May 2007 12:11:39 +0000 http://www.citizenofthemonth.com/2006/05/07/fat-people/#comment-197102 [...] A Year Ago on Citizen of the Month:  Fat People     [...] [...] A Year Ago on Citizen of the Month:  Fat People     [...]

]]> By: I was White Trash when White Trash wasn't Cool http://www.citizenofthemonth.com/2006/05/07/fat-people/#comment-102857 I was White Trash when White Trash wasn't Cool Sat, 07 Oct 2006 05:06:26 +0000 http://www.citizenofthemonth.com/2006/05/07/fat-people/#comment-102857 An amazing, intriguing post/debate. An amazing, intriguing post/debate.

]]> By: carla http://www.citizenofthemonth.com/2006/05/07/fat-people/#comment-94468 carla Sun, 17 Sep 2006 04:05:52 +0000 http://www.citizenofthemonth.com/2006/05/07/fat-people/#comment-94468 As a recovering anorexic its true! I feel so awfull & offended when people make fun of fat people.I am in my mid twenties & once weighed 80 lbs., i would have nightmares of human fat suficating me & going on my body. People claim that being over weight is unhealthy, well beleive me, from the other side of the spectrum, being underweight & anorexia is not healthy! I hope all the over weight people out there dont let others intimidate them like i did, when i was 110 pounds i thought i was 'fat', i saw a 300 pound person & was embarrased even though my pant size was 1. So if anyone out there reads this, i hope you realize, its not healthy to a person to cause emotional damage. The effects can be LIFE THREATENING, trust me i know what i talk of! As a recovering anorexic its true!
I feel so awfull & offended when people make fun of fat people.I am in my mid twenties & once weighed 80 lbs., i would have nightmares of human fat suficating me & going on my body.
People claim that being over weight is unhealthy, well beleive me, from the other side of the spectrum, being underweight & anorexia is not healthy!
I hope all the over weight people out there dont let others intimidate them like i did, when i was 110 pounds i thought i was ‘fat’, i saw a 300 pound person & was embarrased even though my pant size was 1.
So if anyone out there reads this, i hope you realize, its not healthy to a person to cause emotional damage. The effects can be LIFE THREATENING, trust me i know what i talk of!

]]> By: Samaya Wittneben http://www.citizenofthemonth.com/2006/05/07/fat-people/#comment-91539 Samaya Wittneben Tue, 05 Sep 2006 20:48:41 +0000 http://www.citizenofthemonth.com/2006/05/07/fat-people/#comment-91539 Yes I am overweight, I have trouble controlling my weight because I just love to eat! But it is so tiresome to hear and read all the things about fat people - we all, every single one of us know exactly that we can change our situation if we really WANT to. A fact is a fact, so lets get over our sensitivities and lets get on with life! instead of wasting all this energy on feeling hard done by! And calling this rubbish by Mr. Folds "poetry" now that is offensive! Yes I am overweight, I have trouble controlling my weight because I just love to eat! But it is so tiresome to hear and read all the things about fat people - we all, every single one of us know exactly that we can change our situation if we really WANT to. A fact is a fact, so lets get over our sensitivities and lets get on with life!
instead of wasting all this energy on feeling hard done by!
And calling this rubbish by Mr. Folds “poetry” now that is offensive!

]]> By: Mel http://www.citizenofthemonth.com/2006/05/07/fat-people/#comment-90072 Mel Thu, 31 Aug 2006 17:46:25 +0000 http://www.citizenofthemonth.com/2006/05/07/fat-people/#comment-90072 Thank you for writing this. You gave me back a tiny bit of the faith in humanity I had previously lost. Just...thank you. Thank you for writing this. You gave me back a tiny bit of the faith in humanity I had previously lost.

Just…thank you.

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