Comments on: What’s the Matter with Kids Today? http://www.citizenofthemonth.com/2005/08/13/whats-the-matter-with-kids-today/ Neil Kramer is a writer in Los Angeles. Citizen of the Month is his blog. Make yourself at home. Sat, 05 Jul 2008 04:50:48 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5.1 By: Niambe http://www.citizenofthemonth.com/2005/08/13/whats-the-matter-with-kids-today/#comment-225214 Niambe Fri, 16 May 2008 15:50:54 +0000 http://www.citizenofthemonth.com/?p=237#comment-225214 I agree with your thoughts. After listening to Ayelet Waldman on Oprah, I have changed my priorities. I absolutely love my daughter, but her father is the one I want to spend the rest of my life with. She will have to leave my home and start a family of her own one day. I would like to change one thing ZZAKK said in the pecking order list. Pets should be moved down the list to number 5, putting animals before people concerns me no matter how much we don't get along with our in-laws. I agree with your thoughts. After listening to Ayelet Waldman on Oprah, I have changed my priorities. I absolutely love my daughter, but her father is the one I want to spend the rest of my life with. She will have to leave my home and start a family of her own one day.
I would like to change one thing ZZAKK said in the pecking order list. Pets should be moved down the list to number 5, putting animals before people concerns me no matter how much we don’t get along with our in-laws.

]]> By: cinski http://www.citizenofthemonth.com/2005/08/13/whats-the-matter-with-kids-today/#comment-88955 cinski Sun, 27 Aug 2006 04:21:00 +0000 http://www.citizenofthemonth.com/?p=237#comment-88955 Wow! Lots of comments here. I have 3 kids and 1 bonus kid. Its hard and wonderful. Not wonderland but at the same time I couldn't imagine it any other way. I see the parents' role as just that. Parents. Not friends, not buddies, not a wallet or the problem fixer. We are teachers, the guides, the boundry makers, the stable ones who guide them to be successful people with self esteem and tools to make it in the rest of their lives. It is hard and it is fun too. It is NOT a competion with others. That is my biggest complaint with some parents. Kids are not a reflection of the parent. They are as far as you can tell when there is no parenting happening but you parent for the kid - for no one else!!! It really sucks when parents have kids and then have no time to parent. The kids suffer and society does too. It's a hard job and one I take seriously. I am in love with my husband and love all my kids at the same time. cinski Wow! Lots of comments here. I have 3 kids and 1 bonus kid. Its hard and wonderful. Not wonderland but at the same time I couldn’t imagine it any other way.

I see the parents’ role as just that. Parents. Not friends, not buddies, not a wallet or the problem fixer. We are teachers, the guides, the boundry makers, the stable ones who guide them to be successful people with self esteem and tools to make it in the rest of their lives.

It is hard and it is fun too. It is NOT a competion with others. That is my biggest complaint with some parents. Kids are not a reflection of the parent. They are as far as you can tell when there is no parenting happening but you parent for the kid - for no one else!!!

It really sucks when parents have kids and then have no time to parent. The kids suffer and society does too.

It’s a hard job and one I take seriously.

I am in love with my husband and love all my kids at the same time.

cinski

]]> By: Dick http://www.citizenofthemonth.com/2005/08/13/whats-the-matter-with-kids-today/#comment-22117 Dick Tue, 03 Jan 2006 08:04:52 +0000 http://www.citizenofthemonth.com/?p=237#comment-22117 is simple. your kids are spoiled brats who take there lead from holiwood jerks which are nothing but a bunch of morons who live in la la land.... is simple. your kids are spoiled brats who take there lead from holiwood jerks which are nothing but a bunch of morons who live in la la land….

]]> By: Tanya http://www.citizenofthemonth.com/2005/08/13/whats-the-matter-with-kids-today/#comment-8717 Tanya Wed, 17 Aug 2005 17:41:06 +0000 http://www.citizenofthemonth.com/?p=237#comment-8717 The important thing here is that Ms. Waldman got on Oprah. Ka-ching. The important thing here is that Ms. Waldman got on Oprah. Ka-ching.

]]> By: Melliferous http://www.citizenofthemonth.com/2005/08/13/whats-the-matter-with-kids-today/#comment-8638 Melliferous Tue, 16 Aug 2005 18:54:00 +0000 http://www.citizenofthemonth.com/?p=237#comment-8638 Neil the pot stirrer! Although I don’t have children of my own, I worked with kids for years. I have seen the over developed kid centric dynamic up close, and it sucks. It makes for bratty and unpleasant kids. I often saw parents spoil their children in an attempt to make up for not being around, always off at work. I’ve also seen unhappy parents have kids just because it’s the thing to do. Sad for the kids, they're the monster brats showing up on television programs like Mtv's "Sweet Sixteen." Neil the pot stirrer!

Although I don’t have children of my own, I worked with kids for years. I have seen the over developed kid centric dynamic up close, and it sucks. It makes for bratty and unpleasant kids. I often saw parents spoil their children in an attempt to make up for not being around, always off at work. I’ve also seen unhappy parents have kids just because it’s the thing to do. Sad for the kids, they’re the monster brats showing up on television programs like Mtv’s “Sweet Sixteen.”

]]> By: Neil http://www.citizenofthemonth.com/2005/08/13/whats-the-matter-with-kids-today/#comment-8619 Neil Tue, 16 Aug 2005 14:03:20 +0000 http://www.citizenofthemonth.com/?p=237#comment-8619 Yeah, yeah, yeah... ubermilf. Gotta take the kids to school, to soccer practice, then ballet class... as if blogging wasn't as important. Yeah, yeah, yeah… ubermilf. Gotta take the kids to school, to soccer practice, then ballet class… as if blogging wasn’t as important.

]]> By: ubermilf http://www.citizenofthemonth.com/2005/08/13/whats-the-matter-with-kids-today/#comment-8618 ubermilf Tue, 16 Aug 2005 13:57:54 +0000 http://www.citizenofthemonth.com/?p=237#comment-8618 I don't have time to read all your comments on this post now, but... As a parent, I both agree AND disagree with you. I see parents hovering over their kids, trying to prevent any disappointment and hurt from coming their way. Yes, I agree... too much. People do it with dogs, too. I know what you mean. However, there are times when kids should come first. When they're sick, don't drag them around because it's convenient for you. Or neglect them. Like anything, it's about moderation. Kids aren't a hobby to devote yourself to... they are people. The goal of a parent should be to design your own obsolescence. Does that make sense? Sorry... I'm in a hurry. I don’t have time to read all your comments on this post now, but…

As a parent, I both agree AND disagree with you.

I see parents hovering over their kids, trying to prevent any disappointment and hurt from coming their way. Yes, I agree… too much. People do it with dogs, too. I know what you mean.

However, there are times when kids should come first. When they’re sick, don’t drag them around because it’s convenient for you. Or neglect them.

Like anything, it’s about moderation. Kids aren’t a hobby to devote yourself to… they are people. The goal of a parent should be to design your own obsolescence.

Does that make sense? Sorry… I’m in a hurry.

]]> By: Jack http://www.citizenofthemonth.com/2005/08/13/whats-the-matter-with-kids-today/#comment-8601 Jack Tue, 16 Aug 2005 06:02:27 +0000 http://www.citizenofthemonth.com/?p=237#comment-8601 Neil, I have been to a million parties at Chuck E. Cheese. For that matter conservatively speaking within the past 5 years I have been to around 38 parties. But I only have two kids and PT has 6 so I defer to his wisdom on this. In all sincerity I suspect that we can find many historical references that list how bad children are compared to the past. There is nothing new with this. Kohelet said it best when he said that there was nothing new under the sun. Neil,

I have been to a million parties at Chuck E. Cheese. For that matter conservatively speaking within the past 5 years I have been to around 38 parties.

But I only have two kids and PT has 6 so I defer to his wisdom on this.

In all sincerity I suspect that we can find many historical references that list how bad children are compared to the past.

There is nothing new with this. Kohelet said it best when he said that there was nothing new under the sun.

]]> By: susan http://www.citizenofthemonth.com/2005/08/13/whats-the-matter-with-kids-today/#comment-8595 susan Tue, 16 Aug 2005 04:40:13 +0000 http://www.citizenofthemonth.com/?p=237#comment-8595 what the hell? you are sooo popular. 61 comments? is that like a new record or something? keep up the entertaining read. =) what the hell? you are sooo popular. 61 comments? is that like a new record or something? keep up the entertaining read. =)

]]> By: Neil http://www.citizenofthemonth.com/2005/08/13/whats-the-matter-with-kids-today/#comment-8594 Neil Tue, 16 Aug 2005 04:26:56 +0000 http://www.citizenofthemonth.com/?p=237#comment-8594 I'm totally surprised about how touchy parents are about this subject... whatever the subject was originally. Parents, we love you! But since Jack and Psychotoddler are both kosher, maybe they just haven't been lucky enough to experience a birthday party at Chuck E. Cheese. I suggest you both go to one this weekend and see if you come back with a different opinion on today's children. I’m totally surprised about how touchy parents are about this subject… whatever the subject was originally. Parents, we love you! But since Jack and Psychotoddler are both kosher, maybe they just haven’t been lucky enough to experience a birthday party at Chuck E. Cheese. I suggest you both go to one this weekend and see if you come back with a different opinion on today’s children.

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