You can say a lot of bad things about how men are judgmental about women, but you can’t say that a man judges a woman by her height. You’ll never see a man thinking to himself:
”Oh, wow. She just took off her clothes and is beckoning to me to come into her bedroom. She wants me to stay over and have sex with her tonight. Dammit. If only she wasn’t three inches shorter than me! Better I just go home and watch “The Real Gilligan’s Island” on my Tivo.”
What is it with women and their obsession with a man’s height? I don’t think I’ve read one “dating blog” where a woman didn’t complain about one of her date’s height.
“He was too short…”
“He definitely lied about his height in his Jdate profile…”
“If I wanted a midget, I would have fucked someone in the circus…”
What’s the big deal with you women? Haven’t you ever heard the saying, “The best things come in small packages?” Why do you really need a taller man? It’s all in your head. If you need to get something from the top of the refrigerator — that’s why they invented a step stool.
I’m not exactly sure why our culture considers it “better” for the man to be taller than the woman. I looked it up on Google, thinking it may be related to our hunting and gathering days. I didn’t find anything.
And wouldn’t it better if a hunter was shorter? Who’s going to more easily hide behind that rock — Tattoo from Fantasy Island or basketball star Yao Ming?
Hollywood hasn’t help things for shorter men. Even when a male star is short (and many of them are), they need to find a love interest that’s even shorter. Every once in a while, I see a female celebrity shopping in a Beverly Hills supermarket or drinking a coffee in Starbucks. It’s shocking to see how tiny they are. I think in real life, Jennifer Aniston is like 3 feet tall!
One of my best friends from New York is a fairly short guy. He’s married now, with two beautiful children. His wife is taller than him, and she’s never complained.
In fact, when I see this picture of Gary Coleman, I think it would be great to be his height. Never again would a woman say to me, “My eyes are right here, not down there.”
Thablock, I couldn’t agree with you anymore.
I was at work the other day. This girl asked me where I get my clothes. I said hunh? What do you mean where do I get my clothes. She said, “your designer jeans are the perfect length”. I was just amazed that somebody could ask such a shortsighted, doltish question. I was nice about it though. Just said, um a place called “the tailor” hems them for me. Funny thing is, I never ever have to look at the length when I buy pants. I just look for the waist, cause at 5ft 3, I always have to get them hemmed.
Short guys have had to put up with a lot of crap throughout their lives. Unless you’re a short guy living where a majority of the population is relatively diminutive, you’ve had to withstand a barrage of teasing about your size throughout your formative years. That builds a thick skin and also helps develop a healthy sense of humor. It’s unfair to a short guy when you name his size as a reason why you won’t date him—I mean, that’s just cruel.
And please don’t give me any crap about how you’d “have to lean down in order to kiss him, and that would be sooooo awkward,” because how do you think tall guys kiss short girls? Yeah. If they can lean forward a little bit, so can you.
I am tired of this: ‘If a woman said she will date only white male she not racist’ what do u people call racism then?? i understand if she said she wont date a short guy but it’s totally racist to exclud other races in dating . Short men i know we screwed but if u cant find any date PORN ARE MADE FOR U watch it if u really need to cum. SLUTS ARE ALSO THERE FOR U . Dont be running behind women like a dog and NEVER COMMIT SUICIDE BECAUSE OF WOMEN !!! u may do that for not getting jobs or not getting promoted. It’s their choises to do not date short men just like it’s your choice to date the kind of women u like. U CANT FORCE THEM , THAT’S NATURAL TO HATE SHORT PEOPLE AND FAT PEOPLE .
well, i don’t know what to say because i am dating with a guy shorter than me.. but, guess what? He is more caring and loving than my ex who is taller than me. I do agree with you that girl should not look down the shorter guys, they never give them a chance to show that they are better..
Well, apparently, in Atlanta, Georgia where I come from, height always matters when it comes to dating, especially among young people. With me being 5’7 1/2″ to 5’8″, it is difficult to have a steady partner. Most guys often prefer girls who are 5’6″ or below, especially if their height is ranging from 5’8″ to over 6’0″. Sad but honest. I know it really stinks to be a tall, single female but it seems like it’s always going to be this way.
And also, whoever said that French women are taller than American women is wrong. From what I’ve found out, French women are shorter than American women on average, which is 5’1″ or 5’2″.
I read through all the postings and it stirred up lots of emotions inside of me. I’m 5’6″, in my 40′s and not too long ago married a wonderful woman and we now have two great kids. Let me just say this: I now feel like I spent too much of my life feeling resentful and angry over the heightism that exists in our society and over the rejections, real or imagined, that I experienced because of it, especially from women.
Yes, there are many people who have a real prejudice towards short men. Many women have this prejudice when it comes to dating. But you know what? Being bitter and angry about it now (and even when I was single) is like trying to get back at people for their attitudes by drinking poison. I’m in a place now where I simply refuse to surrender my happiness to other people who in the grand scheme of things, really have no meaning or importance in my life. I will simply do my best to live my life as best I can and to instill some strong values in my kids and to teach them that despite the heightism attitudes that exist out in the world, that their worth and value as human beings is not defined solely by their height. If that were ever to be true, then this world really would be a pathetic place.
It’s just too easy to let one’s short stature become a lifelong obsession, to the point that a person could spend their whole life being bitter about the hardships that come with being short, and turning over all of their power to obsessing over it. My advice – don’t let this happen to you. Trust me when I tell you, there are many men and women in this world who will accept you for who you are and see beyond your height. They are out there, and you will find them, if you have the right mental attitude and belief that you are more than just your height.
I am a 41 year old 4 feet 9inch tall male. My life seems to be a nightmare. Any advice for me.?
Albert
I found this story and I just had to comment. I’m a 41 year old man who’s approximately between 5’4” and 5’5” feet tall. I have suffered from height discrimination my entire life and every relationship I have been in expect my current one has ended with the woman cheating on me with taller men and leaving me. As you might guess I have a ton of baggage, hell I call it luggage, and I’m not exactly the most positive person with it comes to people in general. Short jokes aside I am the product of my environment and if I do come off as having “short man complex” so be it.
My ex was with me for 11 years and was considerably shorter than me (4’11) but left me for… you guessed it… a taller guy (he’s 5’10ish). One of her reasons for leaving was my height. She indicated that she needed to feel secure.. she needed a mate that would “protect her”. I remember thinking “wow, if I were to claim to need a woman with larger breasts and a tiny waistline I would be thought of as being in appropriate”. Well the truth is I don’t really care about a woman’s height or breasts. A few extra pounds is even ok. What I do care about is personality. In my experience few woman care more about personality, they seem to mostly consider looks first and foremost with height being the big deal.
I have had to work harder for everything I have earned in my life when compared to taller men of the same age group. Despite all this I am in middle management in my chosen field, happily and gainfully employed. Although I do make about 10% less then my counterparts in the organization who are taller….and I have a sneaking suspicion its their height and not their capabilities that got them more money. I will however just be happy to have a decent job.
My story seemingly has ended in a happy place however since I have found someone of the opposite gender who can love someone like me.
About 2.5 years ago I met a woman who was 4 years younger than me on an online dating site and after meeting we grew very close and fell in love. This person has proven that looks are not the only thing that she cares about, in fact she really does not care about looks, she’s less shallow then me. She’s essentially the same height as I am exactly and I have a feeling that is why it “works”. She’s not too short for a woman so she never had to deal with height discrimination and she’s not taller than me. This combined with her life lessons made her ready to accept someone like me into her life. She is one in a million.
Height was never an issue between us and will never be one unless we have kids..since they will likely be short and have issues because of that.
However we are both middle aged now so maybe no kids.
She has dated taller men in the past, fact is she was married to one that was over 6 feet tall for a while. I suspect she tried out taller men and found that she wasn’t treated well and decided to give all men of all heights a shot when she met me.
Tall men tend to be more arrogant, physically abusive, and generally have poor sharing skills. They have always gotten what they wanted and thus do not have to work hard for anything. A generalization but one I can cite too many factual to so I will express the opinion.
While I can say that I am bitter that I didn’t meet what seems to be my best match until I was in my late 30s I am happy to not be alone looking in what really is a difficult dating world for short men.
Taller men have it easier because they are in demand. In my opinion its all about evolution and natural selection, we really are still bound by our instincts. The media and society just amplify this and in the end someone like me has a very tough time trying to find love.
Being short essentially means dating is much more difficult, so is finding a career and advancing in said career.
I know of a woman of average height who is looking for Mr. Right, she will only consider men above 5’10”. She’s 43 going on 44 and has not ever been in a relationship for more than 2 years. She has not had the life lesson yet to understand that someone like me might not be so bad. Because of this I fear for any “place holder” short man she ends up dating.
My advice for short men like myself: Don’t wear your heart on your sleeve, Don’t even try to date women that are taller then you, Look for someone around your height (not much shorter not much taller) , and try to find someone that is truly ready to accept you for who you are. Do not become someone’s placeholder.
Nice post Louis.
Congratulations on finding a quality woman to share your life with. Good for you my friend! Not to sound negative, but I find that women within a 3 inch radius of being taller or shorter than my height 5’5, can be the most difficult and demanding of all women. I’ve met women my height, slightly shorter and slightly taller that would sooner label me as a half-man or little boy. Really tall girls, 5’10 or more are rarely accesible but it’s not like they are off limits. These women can be approached with confidence and honesty. They are an extreme few but they will respect you for that. In my experience, the women closer to 6’0 can be extremely mean, hurtful and insulting. Not just to short guys but short women too. Maybe this is why some short women feel they can treat short guys like garbage and disqualify us as men in favour of the taller guys. They get treated like garbage by the taller girls so they in turn do the same to short guys. The amazing thing is that all these women are tripping over themselves to get the attention of the tallest guy who usually is seen hand in hand with the shortest girl. Kinda strange indeed. I’ve met and worked with really tall women who think the world of themselves and never come down from that high pedestal. They look down at shorter people with disdainful looks as if we’re useless, disease ridden mistakes of life. I don’t discriminate height in women and I’m pretty safe to approach anyone. I don’t approach women with angry eyes wanting to burn a hole through my head.
Being a tall women is like the worst hell you can imagine. I think we often seem to have attitudes because we never got to be short, cute and and “liked” by boys. We get nasty comments and questions. We feel really insecure and nasty! We don’t like to talk to people or meet their eyes because we feel gross. I try to go to the grocery store really early so people don’t see me. If I see a young man ( under 21), I usually hurry away from him since they seem the most hateful! I would never smile at anyone (other than a baby). I don’t have a hateful stare, but do avoid eye contact!!! I do have to interact with people at work and I hate it!!!! I am 34, 5’11, and have never had a boyfriend or relationship. I’m no supermodel but I’m not obese or seriously ugly other than my size. Life is hard but I have found other things in life to enjoy and sometimes feel happy. Anyway if tall girls seem mean it’s just because we never learned to flirt,smile or feel confident because boys were mean to us when we were young!
that’s the thing i do not understand, life is hard for tall women and short men…precisly in relationship.
but when someone try to solve the problem by talking on a normal relation between tall girls and short guys we find all those comments…i really don’t understand why it’s not just normal? or is the right solution is to stay alone just because it’s incomfortable for people to see the difference?…coming for me no matter the people look..all that matter is the pricious moment with my loving soul!!!
There is no doubt that short people are victims of discrimination. It is what my website – http://www.supportfortheshort.org is all about. Short men in particular are victims of ‘Heightism’. Heightism is one of the most if not the most unrecognized pervasive prejudice in the world in my opinion. I noticed there are many comments here from women and some of them state that they would not date a man shorter than they are. I have no problems with that. Women can date who they want to date. What I do have problems with is the heightist attitude of society and the heightist attitude of many women towards short men. Short people and short men in particular are victims of discrimination; discrimination that no recognized group would ever tolerate under any conditions. Short people have:
Their competency questioned.
Their credibility questioned.
Their intelligence questioned.
Correct me if I’m wrong, but if you question someone’s competency, credibility, or intelligence based on their skin color, creed, sex, race, national origin, sexual orientation, etc. then you’re guilty of discrimination and there are laws to prevent that. The same should be true of height.
I very much appreciate the intelligent comments of guys like ‘Bruno’, ‘Carl’ and ‘Marcos’. We need more intelligent colloquy on the subject of heightism because the subject of heightism goes beyond dating. It extends into all aspects of life. The most popular sports are Football, Basketball, and WWE, sports that are designed only for Tall and large men. The short man is literally locked out of the board room. Fortune 500 CEO’s are by and large Tall men, and I could go on and on. It’s time for short people and short men in particular to view heightism as a prejudice, instead of a personal weakness to be dealt with exclusively and only on a personal level. I invite you to visit my website at http://www.supportfortheshort.org
Thanks,
Joe
I am a 4’11″ female with a son headed for 5’4″ when fully grown. I really wish that there were sports leagues where there is a max height, just like weight class wrestling. My 10 yo son is holding his own in hockey but at 55 lb , it may be dangerous when checking starts.
I have looked into growth hormones, but likely we will not go this route, and even then at 5’7 he would not be average height, esp where we live where many people are of Dutch and German background.
If anyone has advice of what I can do as a parent to help him. I must admit in my youth I didn’t really gravitate toward shorter men, though I did date a man 5’6 long term, but since he was Italian his height was fairly normal among his peers. I actually never really met too many very short men.
I did find that men were often interested in me sexually, but as a long term love interest, there was less success. I wondered later if its the whole, I will have short children thing.
My son I would say is more attractive and intelligent than average, but besides the height he is also on the slim side structurally, and luckily he will never be fat as he is a bundle of energy. No-one in our families is particularly muscular.
ALMOST EVERYONE IS DISHONEST.
It must be said that women are just as shallow, if not more than men any time the subject of height comes into play. Short ladies are the most demanding from my experience and they’re the ones usually preferring the really tall guys. The same thing goes for the taller women who refuse to date any man shorter than they are. There are short guys I know who won’t approach taller ladies because they feel it’s an exercise in failure. There’s always the thought of being rejected by the taller lady because the short guy doesn’t measure up in her eyes. Exactly the reason why some tall ladies are single. This has never stopped me from approaching them because a lot of these women have no choice but to date a shorter man. It’s not like the world is densely populated with tall guys over six feet and any woman who fails to realize that there are quality short men, deserves to be alone. It’s totally ok to have a preference, but physical features will only get you so far.
FYI I’m 5’7, black, British/Jamaican/African/Canadian
What is this silly debate about? If someone complains about your height/weight when you are going out, then it obviously mean that you are not on the same wavelenght, i.e not made for each other. When you appreciate someone, these silly details don’t matter (if they do, there is more vanity than actual liking/love!).
So instead of being resentful towards people who CAN’T/DON’T appreciate your being whatever you are, get on with your daily life. A positive attitude to yourself and others is the first step of social attraction. If before even looking at a woman/man your mind go scripting that he or she will be put off by your height, then you are undermining the other’s intelligence and putting him/her off. Don’t get surprised then if you get rejected! (because of your prejudicing attitude, and NOT because of your height!)
People should also stop reading stupid magazine telling us about what we should like and what is “trendy/acceptable”. Feel your emotions, don’t copy/paste them from Men’s health and others!
~From a 5ft3 lady who doesn’t care one bit about people’s height before asking them out…~
You people really need to wake up and stop blaming everyone for whatever it is you are complaining about. Women are not shallow, they for the most part don’t care about looks, believe me, I talk from experience. I am on the very short side, I am married to a woman 6 feet tall, blond, amazon, the works you name it, and we have 3 2 kids now. Thing is, I always had the right attitude and I was always able to find a woman. For all the short young kids out there that think they don’t have a chance, all I can say, you write your own destiny. I can tell you the secret, but unless you figure it out for yourself, it would be of zero value.
See you on the other side…
Davids
I don’t blame or hate girls for not wanting to be with a shorter guy. Just like I don’t want to be with a girl a lot taller than me. I tried it and just didn’t like maybe it could have been her personality….whatever. I like small short girls and there’s nothing wrong with it. Don’t like girls that are way out of shape either, it’s my preference. For the most part, we can choose who we want to date. Just like the ladies that don’t want to date a shorter guy.
“You people really need to wake up and stop blaming everyone for whatever it is you are complaining about. Women are not shallow, they for the most part don’t care about looks, believe me, I talk from experience. I am on the very short side, I am married to a woman 6 feet tall, blond, amazon, the works you name it, and we have 3 2 kids now. Thing is, I always had the right attitude and I was always able to find a woman. For all the short young kids out there that think they don’t have a chance, all I can say, you write your own destiny. I can tell you the secret, but unless you figure it out for yourself, it would be of zero value.”
David, I have to disagree with you. Women and men are shallow alike, but I believe that women are much more shallow when it comes to a man’s physical appearance. Every woman cares about a man’s physical appearance until they reach the age when their own diminishing looks can’t dictate the men they used to be able to pick and choose from. Congratulations to you on your marriage, but most taller women are not as opened minded to date a shorter man, let alone marry one like your lady was with you. This is a fact of evolution. It’s called “Social Darwinism,” or “Heightism” to be specific. It’s no secret that confidence conquers all but not always. A short man with confidence is often passed off as annoying and Napoleanic with short man syndrome. Taller men don’t need to concern themselves with confidence because their height immediately gets their foot in the door. That being said, any woman short or tall who doesn’t measure a man’s confidence based on his height will always get my respect. Truth be told, a mature, confident, tall woman doesn’t care about a man’s height because her image is not dependent on the man she chooses to date.
I’m sorry I cannot be more sypathetic to this author’s sob story. Maybe it’s because as a woman with hypothyroidism who works out 5 days a week just to stay at a size 18, I’ve been treated as a lepper from guys at bars to some of my closest guy friends. Yes dating sucks. Short men, overweight women – how we treat both says a lot about our culture. For every, “he lied about his height…” there are 20 “she lied about her weight…” So trust me, men will always win the “Most Superficial” contest (oh I’m sorry the PC term is “more visual”).
Yeah these women that constantly complain about men’s height or always has something to complain about a man has themselves serious self esteem issues, really low confidence in themselves and so they compensate their insecurities, low confidence and self esteem issues with male bashing to their “girlfriends”. Yes it’s a fact that a lot of men don’t like “heavy women” but yet most men as made up through the media also don’t like super skinny women i.e. anorexic women or also women that are the extremly picky eaters and constant “calorie” watchers. But the “heavy women” can lose the weight yes we all know women get angry and pissed when men say we don’t like the heavy women but at the same time it goes out in one ear and out the next when women hear when men get pissed about women constantly bashing men’s height.
You don’t see men put on the internet I refuse to ever date a “fatty” we refuse to date heavy women. Men are discreet about that and will just pass those type. But women are CERTAINLY not at all discreet about men’s height. They want the whole effin world to know they don’t want anything to do with a shorter man. It’s like they must put up this whole bill board saying we won’t date men on the shorter side. Oh yeah and I’s not talking about men that are 5’3″ to say 5’5″ plus when do you seriously see a man that is actually 5’3″ or 5’4″ seriously????? Not often at all/rarely!! But anyways it’s like 5’6″ and even some up to like 5’10″, 5’11″ even while she is all of 5’1″ to like 5’4″. These women that are constant bitchers about men’s height are also so unsure of themselves. I agree with the article about stepping ladder, etc. and it is just in women’s head about men’s height. The argument about “protection”, I always like to wear high heels blah blah blah… Is soooo LAME.
I agree MO. I am 5 “2″.
Women refuse to date heavy men too because they’re bombarded by images of airbrushed, fit, muscular men.
not true for all women..:) I prefer a husky guy than a toothpick looking man…women can sometimes be so stubborn
First of all, weight isn’t the same as height. You can gain and lose weight at will. So when a person is overweight, it really does reflect their lack of discipline with diet and exercise. In a broader sense, it suggests overindulgence. So yeah, I won’t date an overweight woman. Because if I have to go to the gym 15 hours a week to keep in shape, it’s not too much to expect a woman to commit 5 hours a week to cardio exercise and to watch what she eats. It’s fair. And same works for guys, too. If a woman refused to date a fat guy, I would applaud her! Every person has the responsibility to take care of their body for their own sake.
But there’s nothing that men can do about their height! If a guy doesn’t grow up to be above the 40th percentile for height, it’s by no fault of his own. So please don’t compare men’s superficiality with that of women. (men who judge women based on breast size or other features are called “pigs”. No one approves of that criteria.)
That said, I don’t blame women for not being interested in guys that are shorter than them. But what boggles me is how couples are getting exceedingly incompatible in height. I find it ridiculous that 5′ women go after 6’4″ guys. Are they looking for intimacy or just a sex toy? Anything over 6 inches in difference is just laughable. Even I – being a tad below average at 5’9.5″ – can’t imagine being with a girl shorter than 5’3″. The only reason men date women so much shorter than them is because they get a smug satisfaction from the attention showered on them. And in marriage, I know many women who hate having to physically look up at someone who they mentally look down on.
So please, everyone, do humanity a favor and date your own size – not your fantasy!
Hello, women are pigs for judging for penis size and other features too.
Uh huh.. like a man doesn’t judge breast size? I am a 28yo female who is 5’1″ and men always comment on my height, although this is usually after I have given them the flick. Men are just as bad. Enough already boys. Judging anyone by their height is wrong and I have heard many men comment on a woman’s height, too short or too tall… so I am failing to understand why a woman can’t be just as picky.
Mike your thought is just sad. You judge people and assume that every heavy person out there is lazy, lacks self discipline etc..and that is really messed up. Here is something you may find shocking-I am a 28 year old female, healthy, eat well and stay active, and I am. A beautiful sexy size 18. I am 5 foot 8 and guess what? My boyfriend is 5 foot 5, in shape, and a soccer/hockey/and basketball player. I am his first chubby and tall gf and not once has my height/weight been an issue for him and not once has his height been an issue for me. He loves me for me and treats me like a queen. Not once has it ever been weird, and being with him makes me feel the most beautiful and most loved I have ever felt. You have a very messed up way of thinking, but it is understandable because majority of society is filled with shallow narrow minded assholes like you.
“So please, everyone, do humanity a favor and date your own size – not your fantasy!”
I don’t agree with this stuff here. Date someone your own size? This is almost as bad as telling someone to date within their own race or country. Obviously you are a boring person following the plain-jane rules of society. A person that never dares to be different concocts this kind of drivel. What happened to people loving each other for who they are aside from the physical nature rather than loving someone because the world tells you that you “have” to love someone? You don’t blame women for not liking shorter guys yet you applaud the discrimination against fat people? Nonsense man! Not everyone can control their weight to a tee and there is no universal definition of what is skinny, fat or obese. What right do you have to judge what is “normal,” and what is “fantasy?” There’s too much emphasis on the picture perfect image couple defined by Hollywood in this world. You sound insecure and superficial by laughing at couples that appear contrary to “your” norm. There are extremes in height difference that do look obtuse to some, but who are we to judge someone else’s happiness. To each his own. Maybe you should think about that a little bit more.
“Men are very sensitive to women’s attractiveness. Women seem to be sensitive to men’s height and salary” – Dan Ariely, Professor of Psychology at Duke University
Women are sensitive about a man’s attractiveness, height, education, and salary. Men are sensitive about a woman’s attractiveness, height, education, and salary too. Men tend to want lower status women. Women want higher status men.
I’ve recently started dating a man who is 5’3″ while I’m 5’10.5″. It’s the healthiest, most fulfilling relationship I’ve ever had. I’m confident and recognized his awesome traits. We’re both really happy!
Be careful Clare, your 7.5 inch height difference from your man might offend Mike. He’s seems pretty sold on labeling obstuse height couples as freaks with fetishes. It’s a total North American image fixation if you ask me because the European women I’ve met have told me that a man’s height never matters. Confidence, personality and cleanliness are far more important traits according to them. I don’t believe it’s entirely true that European women don’t care about height but it’s definitely not as big a deal compared to the opinions from U.S. women. Good to hear that you’ve found happiness regardless of the height of the man in your life. I won’t lie though, he’s 5’3, I’m 5’5 and just a little bit jealous LOL, but happy for you both.
I am 46 years old, and 5′ 9.5″. Being above average in height for a woman, I have always had a preference for men who are taller than me. Perhaps that is because being with a taller man made me feel smaller and protected? Or maybe it was because tall men seemed more virile to me. Whatever the reason, here I am, 46, single again after a 12 year marriage and not doing so well at this dating thing…or at finding my Mr. Right. I recently met and started dating a man who is 5’7″. I have to admit, that when I first met him I questioned if I could really bring myself to date someone shorter than me. But I very quickly realized what a wonderful man he is, better than any man I have met in a very, very long time. We are so compatible and he is someone that I feel I could spend the rest of my life with. So I am thankful that I was smart enough not to pass up the chance to be with a man who makes me happy just because he is shorter than me.
Open your eyes, love is out there waiting for you, if you would just stop looking at the outside and focus on the inside! I feel truly blessed to have found this man with such a big heart. And yes, great things do come in small packages.
No disrespect to you Karen and congratulations on finding happiness in your life once again. Not surprisingly, your post speaks loudly of many postmenopausal women. Why all of a sudden are short men “dateworthy” and attractive? The reason? Your diminishing looks and age doesn’t give you the ability to freely pick and choose from the crop of most desirable tall guys. The only guys left for you to date are the short ones who you shortchanged earlier in life. Don’t get me wrong, I’ve met beautiful, older, mature women who get more attention from guys than the younger girls. Most won’t pay attention to you unless you belong to a Cougar club that cators to providing young guys for this purpose. Isn’t it funny how companionship, compatability and stimulating conversation are all of a sudden desirable traits that older women adamantly state are most important in a man? I guess all of you were lying to yourselves all this time by focusing on a man’s height and not the quality of a his heart? Sorry, but I don’t sympathize in the least bit for women who have married, divorced and remarried more times than they can count on one hand, who now in their older years seek the goodness of a short guy? All too superficial.
You are such a dooshbag.
Well Sam, I first have to explain to you that at the age of 46, it is rare that a woman would be post-menopausal. The correct term you are looking for is pre-menopausal, and there is a big difference.
If one is lucky, with age comes the wisdom and the understanding to appreciate a person for who they are rather that what they look like. I am glad that the passing of time along with life/relationship experiences have afforded me this privilege. If you could see me, you would see that I do not look 46, I am mistaken for early 30s all the time. No one believes me when I tell them my age. I used to model when I was younger and continue to receive offers to model even now. Men of all ages, heights, and sizes continue to pursue me but I prefer to date men my age as I find I don’t have as much in common with men much younger or much older than me. (Does that mean I discriminate?) I have always had my pick of pretty much any man I want and I still do, including all the tall ones. That has not changed but what has changed is me. I am no longer content to be in unfulfilling relationships. My experiences have been that most men (regardless of stature) are only interested in the outside package and not the contents. More and more, older men are looking for younger women to help restore that feeling of youth and virility for which they are mourning the loss.
Yes, I have made errors in my past judgments of people and I have learned from the mistakes of my youth. Isn’t that the point? The man I am with now has taken the time to look beyond my physical beauty and to get to know me and love me, and with him I share a compatibility and deep connection that I have not experienced with another in a very long time. He possesses all of the qualities I am looking for and it just so happens that he is shorter than me, but his height is irrelevant. The point of my previous post was to say that if people are really interesting in finding true and lasting love, they need to stop being so narrow minded and superficial – a lesson that I have learned and wanted to share with others.
From reading your previous posts Sam, you sound bitter. My hope for you is that the love of a wonderful woman will someday heal that for you.
Cheers
You go girl
Excuse me, but doesn’t the years after menopause qualify as having the “post” prefix attached to it? Isn’t pre-menopause associated with the slowing down of a woman’s menstral cycle, mid 30′s to 40′s? Maybe I’m just too immature to understand LOL! I’m not going to get into the medical specifics but kudos and praise to you for admitting your mistakes in your youth. We all makes mistakes but owning up to them is a different story.
Forgive me if I came across as harsh, but after reading your post about taller men seeming more “virile,” and you needing to feel “protected” by the taller man was not encouraging to me. The fact that you admitted questioning your self-assurance with this shorter guy directly says you were a heightist. Maybe you are reformed now, but how much? When you boldly say your new man has taken the time to look past your physical beauty tells me that you wallow in your own arrogance. Not once did you mention anything about him other than he’s wonderful, yet you described tall men as being more virile which directly discriminates against short men. I still don’t understand this Neanderthal mentality that women need from taller men to feel protected and secure. Yes, you should be thankful that you put your shallow guard down and looked past his height. I just hope you’re not like a leopard, changing your heightist spots to include this guy in your life. Once a heightist, always a heightist, forever a heightist.
If you’ve truly found love with your man, congratulations to you and good on you. By the way, I’m not bitter. I just get annoyed when I read posts of women giving shorter men a “chance,” rather than a mutual feeling of attraction between two people. Women who say they give shorter men or men in general, a “chance,” sounds like you’re settling for what you don’t want and hoping for the best in a mate. I’d rather not be with a woman who just wants to give me a “chance,” hoping to find companionship. I’ve had my heart broken many times before and I’m past the age of superficialities just like you. Maybe it’s the word “chance” itself that’s annoying to me because it’s not like you ladies go for what you want and do the asking. You do all the choosing. All of you have a stronger fear of rejection and never make the first move. In your days of youth, was it more often the tall guys you gave more “chances” and pissed on the short guys for even daring to pretend? Sure sounds like it. Another thing, the love of a woman has no comparison to the love of the living God. Women nor men possess those kind of healing powers.
Maybe you just need to get some self confidence and not worry about what others say and think????
Sam!!! You are awesome, a man after my own heart! Yes, I too believe with all my heart that the love of a man or woman is NO comparison to the love and healing powers of the one and only living God! And I do believe that when you put your trust in God, he will bring the right man or woman into your life who will help to heal your broken heart.
I agree with you on so many of your points, but just to clarify, I said that when I was younger “perhaps” being with a taller man made me feel protected, but I cannot say for sure. Honestly, I just don’t know why the preferences of my youth were geared toward taller men and were more superficial in general….chalk it up to the ignorance of youth. But I can say that all of the mistakes I made in my past relationships with men have opened my mind in so many ways and I now view every man equally, regardless of their age, height, size, or even financial staus. I see each of them as having the potential to be the yin to my yang, and it truly has nothing to do with vanishing looks due to my age, and everything to do with wanting a real relationship based on love, compatibility, trust, sincerity, respect and compassion. I now realize that whatever it took to bring me to this point in my life, I am thankful to God that he brought me through it, and I have learned the lesson that he wanted to teach me. I hope others are fortunate enough to experience the same. <3
my boyfriend is the same height as me, if not a tiny bit shorter. when we first started dating, i wished he would grow just 2 inches so bad and i can’t even remember why. i used to be really into tall guys but dating this 5’6″ guy was probably the best thing i could have ever done. he’s my best friend and the sweetest most considerate guy i’ve ever met. one of the nany things i appreciate about his is that he’s never EVER told me to wear flats because he felt uncomfortable with me being taller than him. he’s never tried to change me to compensate for his insecurities. i’ve been with him almost two years now and wouldn’t mind making it forever. i love him exactly the way he is. i wouldn’t change a thing about him if i could, especially not his height. that would be saying he isn’t good enough for me when in reality he’s way too good for me. i love wearing heels on special occasions, so yeah, i’m way taller than him sometimes but i tell anybody that has anything to say about that they can kiss my freakin ass because they’re the ones complaining about their so called boyfriends cheating on them and disrespecting them. people that hold their nose up against dating short-ish guys are exactly the reason why i’m so blessed to have the one that i do so thanks to all the shallow ladies that passed him up because he was too short. and yeah, i understand why ladies prefer tall guys, as i used to be one of them, but to hold something against someone that isn’t their fault, isn’t something they could change and isn’t even a bad thing is small-minded, shallow, cruel and extremely disrespectful. good luck finding a man who won’t treat you with the same contempt.
Hey Karen, nice response. Isn’t hope a wonderful thing?! Hope in the coming of Christ is made that much more beautiful everyday by faith in the Father Almighty! This in essence has allowed me to deal with the difficulties and superficialities of life, that much easier. Heightism is rampant in this world and I’ve experienced enough of this type of discrimination to know that it isn’t dissapearing anytime soon. Surprisingly I’ve experienced less discrimination for being a black man as opposed to being a short black man. Truthfully, I’ve never had a strict preference or body type in a woman, even from highschool through post secondary education through my current adult life. Women shorter than my 5’5 frame have likely given me a complex because I’ve never been tall enough for them. I know it’s wrong to carry over any feelings of discontent to women that don’t know me who may have shown interest in at first sight, me and I’ve tried my best not to. At the same time the slightly taller than average girls, 5’4 – 5’8 were just as bad in their demands for men to be taller than they are, so they ruled me out too. As for the taller than average girls, 5’9 – 6’0 +, lets just say I’ve had minimal luck, but nothing to write home about. I’ve met super tall ladies who enjoyed my company but would never consider me worthy as a mate and pass me off as an acquaintance. You know these types. People who knows you but don’t include you in their circle of friends. At the same time, these tallest of the tall ladies are often the cruelest with their comments towards the shorter guys as if we have the nerve to even try talking to them. I’m glad that you’ve had an awakening in your life with respect to treating all men equally. Making mistakes is a natural part of life. Learning from them is a different story though. So if I came across as harsh to you, I apologize, but not without reason. Height is a touchy subject, and if you’re not considered a short person, you wouldn’t have the slightest idea of what we go through on a daily basis. You yourself almost passed up a good man because of his height but you didn’t, which is great. Personally, I haven’t given up on finding a good woman because I just might find her in heaven. I have given up on finding a good woman on this earth because our society is changing all of Gods rules to suit their own needs. Instead, my relationship with myself and God is more important. HE will bring me to the right people, man and woman, in my journey of life.
Well said Sam, and I completely understand why you came across as harsh. On behalf of the entire female race, I would like to apologize to you and all men who have been discriminated against by women based on your physical appearance. Ironically, women have been griping for years about men being focused on finding the physically perfect woman, and now we women are doing the same to men! It is brutal and self-centered and it often makes me ashamed to be a woman.
I was ready to give up on love, and then my wonderful man came along. Keep your heart open Sam, and I know she will come.
No need to apologize Karen. You are only one woman and there aren’t many like you that have the inner strength to actually apologize on behalf of the female race. Thank-you, very much appreciated, but not necessary.
My heart is always open Karen. It belongs to GOD and nobody else. It has nothing to do with relationships involving women either. I’ve tried that route for years and years and years unsuccessfully. Really, it has nothing to do with giving up or quitting on love, but everything to do with learning to make myself happy with the best of every life situation. Some men are born to be in relationships, make and raise children and provide stability for a family. Others are born to lead a single, faithful life as good people and I believe I’m one of them. Why fight the inevitable? I’ve discovered that life is way too short to waste time looking for love or expecting love to find you. Not surprisingly the unhappiest times of my life involved relationships with women or making attempted relationships with women. I’ve stopped worrying about trying to find a lifelong partner, trying to hold on to that lifelong partner, trying to provide for that lifelong partner, dealing with libidos, infidelity and the ramifications of careless, emotionless, physical intimacy. I’ve seen enough kids destroyed by broken families, custody wars, child support and bad parenting overall. I don’t want that and I’d never want any of that for any kid.
So to conlude, I will never be alone with GOD on my side. I’m just past the point of desiring companionship with the opposite sex. It leaves no room for dissapointment. Relationships with men and women are weak and miniscule compared to finding the inner peace within yourself and connecting with the spirit world. GOD will bring the right PEOPLE to me, women or men. If not in this lifetime, he will in the next. Enjoy!
I know your experiences and views are not exactly the same as mine but it’s nice to see another who believes in the possibility of relationships after this life.
Most seem not to. Which seems odd to me as I don’t get where that comes from. God being super natural and giving us natural things like love, relationships, marriage why these are assumed non existent in the here after. I’m a 5’4 male and found the honorable traits like, honesty, respect, common curtiousy are seen as weak and naive. The do unto others has not been returned but a lifetime of disrespect and harassment simply for existing in a height & skin color body others view as less is the reason enough to smash me.
Mostly males but some women. Dating sites where no woman’s ideal match describes me makes me feel I’d never really be what they want no matter what & probably disrespected as well or simply used. Who wants to be undesired and where they are not wanted. So anyway, I’m now 42 & lost passion for anything, unhappy bitter guy. That just seals the deal to remaining alone. Just like the height was out of my control so was broken home, no siblings, military brat entire childhood moving. So I completely missed all normal needed opportunities for social developement & circles. As an adult it led me to be an easy target short, alone & naive of ppl and the city. To being the target of harrasment, con artists and crime. So I can’t really trust others or be the kind happy guy I want as happiness and kindness opens you up and draws more harm. Many other uncontrollable failures make it seem life beats you down less when you stay locked in the house limiting your exposure to people and experiences. But at least death with bring new possibilities. A place where you are accepted and belong. Even if it still is without a mate. Since the possibilities are endless in what awaits. I don’t like the human race simply because of the way we act and so look forward to all the hurtfulness to be cleansed and over. I pray for all but frankly currently have no desire to ever see or interact with the majority of ppl I’ve ever met. Unjust harrassment for decades loops memories of people, places & events and makes me very very angry with disrespectful individuals. Psychotic and it really is/was not my nature. Best wishes to all of you though.
Hi Gerald,
Here’s my advice for you. Keep your head up and find your inner-self first. Don’t judge the entire female race based on a few bad past experiences. It’s definitely not the right thing to do. What keeps me going in this world is not putting my faith or trust in women but in GOD first and foremost. Women will dissapoint and hurt you if you allow them to. Some even take great pride in being hurtful to short guys just because they have nothing better to do with their sorry lives. Others have had bad relationships with short guys and take it out on everyone else which is wrong. The best thing to do is treat the next woman you meet with respect, be open and honest to her and yourself before passing judgement. Don’t make life harder than it is by accepting defeat and embracing self-pity. There are good women in this world. I know it may seem far-fetched but quality ladies do exist. I’ve learned to embrace my height as an effective tool in establishing relationships with people. Women who pick and choose their relationships with men based on his height usually have their own issues. They aren’t worth any good man’s love or time. Quitting on women is one thing, but don’t quit on yourself my friend. GOD has not quit on you.
Peace
“For every, “he lied about his height…” there are 20 “she lied about her weight…” ”
Umm bullshit. I’ve never known the weight of any of the people I’ve dated. However I have been rejected for being “short”.
Try using common sense next time, and if someone is overweight there is always exercise and eating properly.
AMERICAN WOMAN ONLY LIKE TALL GUYS, BECAUSE THEY HAVE MORE MONEY THAN SMALLER GUYS: IT COULD BE ABOUT MONEY, IS WHY MOST WOMEN ARE ATTRACTED TO HEFNER BECAUSE HE HAS MONEY: COULD SIMPLY BE ABOUT $.
Sam
While you still harped on the fact that once women get older and lose their looks they are more likely to give men chances you completely skipped:
My experiences have been that most men (regardless of stature) are only interested in the outside package and not the contents. More and more, older men are looking for younger women to help restore that feeling of youth and virility for which they are mourning the loss.
I think you have it the other way around Udolpixie.
Women of all ages obsess over tall men, so they’re the ones who can’t look past the physical and concentrate on the mental. There are enough posts from women on this forum and others to validate this. Not surprisingly as these women have gotten older and matured, they’ve started to care less about what society says and are paying more attention to what matters most to them. Love, companionship and happiness. Hey, I don’t blame some older guys for demanding the young girls. Now, it’s their time to be pick and choose after years of being written off by women. I’m certainly not one of those guys chasing after a little girl, but most definitely a confident, educated, mature woman. Right now, I’m actually looking forward to hitting the retirement age. With God on my side and perhaps a bit of luck, I just might be able to find a wife who’ll want to spend quality time with me during my last remaining years on earth. It’s certainly not happening now and I’m not going out of my way to find it when so many modern women are way too concerned with reaffirming their femininity through tall men.
I think you have real issues Sam. You’re bordering on being obsessed and you’re missing many points. Yes SOME woman may want a taller man.. so what? and SOME woman don’t care about a mans height..
ALOT of men judge woman on their physical appearance. How do I know this? years and years of dating and lots of male friends that have told me so. Men are incredibly superficial, not all… but most. I have so many gorgeous female friends in their 20′s with (sorry to say) overweight, unattractive and sometimes short men. So what exactly is your point???? WHO CARES if some woman wants a tall man. Get over it! Get some self confidence, hold your head up and forget what other people want and prefer. If you weren’t so self conscious about it, people probably wouldn’t notice your height so much. A man who is confident, is a sexy man…
I’m a short girl and have been bullied all my life (mostly by men) but I don’t start going on about it accusing every man of being a heightest pig. One thing I will say is being a blonde female, usually means your only good for one thing. Hmmm maybe I should start a blog and rant and rave about that? You can’t judge everyone based on a few experiences. Besides, everyone has the right to have a “type”. Don’t try and control it, it’s…. creepy.
Hey Miss C, you know what I’m obsessed about? Finding and meeting good people in this world, women and men who treat others as they would like to be treated. That’s my lifelong obsession. Being good and doing good to others when there’s so much war and hate and discrimination.
When you say “some” women don’t care about a man’s height, I strongly believe the reality is more like “very few” don’t care about a man’s height. Not to say they don’t exist even though the amount of ladies I’ve met who don’t care about height I can count on one hand. I’ve got short and tall male friends who totally agree with me. What I’ve learned with aging is that height and physical appearance become less important traits in a person on both sides. This is the reason why I politely joked about getting married after 65. Seniors don’t care about looks as much as younger people who are often preoccupied with everyone eles’s opinion and who they are seen with. This really shouldn’t matter but unfortunately it does. If I offended you in anyway, I apologize.
I’m concious of my height because of past and present experiences with both men and women who have used it as an excuse against me. How can I not be? It certainly doesn’t shape how I treat others now, but I’m alot more aware of shallow, ignorant people who aren’t worth the time or energy. BTW I don’t judge everyone I meet based on a few bad situations. I think you misread or misinterpreted what I said. Yes it may be a little harsh, but I still believe most modern women constantly search for the market for the tallest mate to make them feel more feminine. Our society is heavily influenced by the media and they often dictate what is right and wrong for everone. You are right, everyone has a right to have a type, BUT, nobody is nobody’s type until you really seek out the inside of a person. Looks will only get you so far in life. You wanna know something else. I’ve been treated worse for being short rather than for being black and short.
I am dating a short (5’7″) man who is the sweetest guy. I am only 5′ myself, but after negative experiences with a (5’5″) husband, and good experiences with a 5’9″ man, I decided that “taller is better.” The measure of a man is NOT his height, and I am ashamed of myself for thinking so.
Being a 22 year old im hoping ive fone all my growing as i currently stand at 5’11″. Ive always been very aware of my height as my family are smaller than me and most of my friends are shorter. And the fact that around my city the women on average are about 5’3″-5’6″ max, I feel quite awkward.
I’ve always gone for men as tall as i can, the last guy i dated was about my height. And I had bad luck with them all.
The guy I’m seeing now is about 5’7/8″ i think, and he is very light framed. He’s funny and confident and charming and very sweet. I am aware of the awkwardness, and as its early, we’ve not gone for any PDAs really, i think we’re both a bit shy about it, and what friends might say. (Random people dont matter to me) But at the end of the day, Im happy and so is he, we’ve both been in a really good place since seeing each other, so if you are brave enough to brush off childish people laughing or teasing, then i’d say there’s nothing wrong with shorter men.
I came across this article and I can honestly say I was one of those stubborn women embarrassed if a guy I was dating was even an inch shorter than I. Until, I met the most loving, honest and wonderful person ever he is let me be honest a whole lot shorter than an inch shorter than I. I am 5’8 and he is 5″4 at the most but I saw past all that when I got a chance to really get to know him and I couldn’t help but fall head over heels. Although, I do hear people say a few things or even catch a laugh or two I try not to let it bother me. Women really do need to look past little things like that cause they may be missing out on a good thing in their life..like you said small things do come in small packages:)
Let us say a girl find a taller guy.
now how tall is this guy if i compare to Eiffel Tower(height defined for objects so took eiffel tower for compare).
this guy is very tiny when i look in that way. since that guy is tiny for me whether i can ask him to go out of this world.
love cannot estimated from appearance & structure.
those who gives more importance to physical appearance & structure, they are fool who is going to loose their really lovable partner.
I guess dating with smaller men is not a big deal at all… It depends on how a man carries himself. It’s about believing in his self that he may be small, but there is more behind this. In love, Height doesn’t matter… because if you really love the person you will accept him for whatever he is.
Interesting topic we have here! well, as for me, I don’t think that there is something wrong with dating shorter men. Actually i find it cute. We should never underestimate someone just because of their height. We do not know their story and what he is capable of. Being with someone is more than the physical aspect.
i’m a bit lost is this a american thing?
not trying to be racist so sorry if i offend anyone but where i’m from (new zealand) height has never been a problem alot of my friends date shorter men and think nothing of it..infact i’m only shorter then my partner because i actualy am short haha he’s 5ft7 and i’m 5ft5.
i have dated very tall men and i found them too placid.. its some weird thing that comes with the hight there like mellow giraffes.
i love the fact that my partners arrogant and sarcastic i dont care about his hight aslong as he’ll come to movies with me make fun of everything and play left for dead 2 with me
Something to think about:
Do you only pursue taller women or is it only these taller women rejecting you? Because if its the case that you’re still single because you’re only approaching taller women than maybe you should think about why it is you’re not going for women shorter than you.
I personally don’t understand why a man would want to date a woman taller than him, almost as much as why women find shorter men a turn off.
Hi Jasmine.
FYI, I’ve been rejected by more short girls who immediately categorize me as not tall enough. The shoes often make or break the relationships. At the same time there’s taller women who live by the same rule of thumb being that the man must be taller when the high heels come out and play. Thankfully it’s not always the case. A taller girl I dated once told me that she prefered shorter guys because she liked it when a man has to look up at her and pay attention. I guess that’s a confidence thing. Confident people keep their heads up high but not with their noses in the air. Some tall women have no choice but to look down and welcome a good shorter guy into her life. The same tall guys the shorter ladies chase after often feel threatened or demasculated by taller women so the short girls get first choice. If height isn’t an issue to a woman dating a shorter man, he will treat her like the queen she is unless he’s got issues with her height. I can’t see how a confident short guy would have issues with a taller girl, especially if he approached her first for a date.
I personally don’t understand why women go through the pain of cramming their feet into pointy high heel shoes, just to appear taller. Women with beautiful feet don’t ruin them by constantly shoving them into high heels 24-7-365.
I am 23 and 5’5″. Men are usually okay with me, I get on well with most other guys. They accept me for who I am for the most part, and I rarely have issues with men mocking my height or my physical appearance in any way. On the rare occasion that they do, it is usually harmless and could be dismissed as friendly ‘chit-chat.’ Most women, on the other hand, seem to somehow feel threatened by my height. The majority of times, they will react in one of two ways; with insult, or condescension. In bars and clubs I am fair game for thinly-veiled insults such as “Are you old enough to be in here?” and in social situations I often receive comments such as “Awww, you’re so cute! You only look about 14!” I am not sure which is worse, because at least the former can be seen as what it is, an insult, while the latter blurs the line between complement and insult, which is, in a way, even more offensive.
I hardly ever get these kinds of comments or issues from other men, and am generally treated as an equal. I always enjoy being out with my male friends and have a good time, without feeling insecure. I have a few tall male friends, on the 6′+ side, who have never once commented on my height in the years that I’ve known them.
Women are the problem. It is ironic that women and feminists are constantly complaining about the emphasis on a woman’s physical attractiveness, when it is women themselves who seem to have this disgusting discriminatory issue with a man’s height. Perhaps they feel threatened of the embarrassment they’d suffer if I were to approach one of them? Don’t count on it, ladies, I’d rather my right hand any day than some shallow, feeble-minded sheep who wants in a man whatever the TV has conditioned her to desire.
It is rather funny how life is turning out so much to be a boring cliché. I only ever receive attention from overweight women. Even short, thin, unattractive women don’t seem to consider me – even though I don’t think I am a bad looking guy at all myself. It’s almost as if the overweight women view me as a fellow “physically disadvantaged” person and therefore think I will be interested in them. My personality isn’t an issue either. This ranting post may make me come across as bitter, but anyone who knows me knows that I am a very nice guy. Maybe a little too shy for my own good, but I will talk if someone is worth talking to. Unfortunately, most women are so shallow that it’ll never get that far and I will be dismissed right off the bat.
That’s enough for now I think.
@ a short man, regarding the overweight women. Lol, I have that same experience often. Wonder why that is.
Really dumb stuff am reading here. Why complain about who a women wants to date? It won’t change anything. Women can date who they want, does not make them superficial, shallow or whatever. Fact is, you an get any woman if you know what women are truly are after, and one thing they don’t want is little complainers blaming them for your hard times, feeling sorry for themselves and being pathetic. Looks to me that many men here are using their short height as an excuse for not dating women becuse deep down inside they really are gay. Nothing wrong with that, just stop pretending and go get yourselves some man 2 man ass fun.
Hey Matt, you are absolutely right. Women have the right to choose and discriminate the men they want to date. Not arguing anything about that because we guys have the right to approach and talk to who we want to as well. I disagree about your comment about women not being shallow because quite frankly, a lot of them are. Men are too. We are all shallow as humans, some just a lot more than others. My concern is the women who disqualified me as dating potential because of my height when I was younger. Now that I’m older and these women are older as well with fading looks, they see fit to give me the time of day to get married, have kids and divorce me when the kids have grown up a little? I’ve seen it happen mostly to short guys under 5’8. So I guess I’m not at all shallow as a man for excluding fat women, flat-chested women, aging women, non-model types and extremely short women? You know how many women would have a field day attacking me? I don’t feel sorry for myself or complain about women who reject me. I just move on to the next girl and hope that she sees past my 5’5 frame and looks at the bigger picture. The content of my character and the size of my heart is most important. Question for you. How is being gay associated with the difficulties that some guys have for not dating women? That’s some really dumb stuff if you ask me. Try to contribute something positive to the discussion rather than the nonsense you suggested about homosexuals. Can you do it without namecalling or is that too much to ask? What grade are you in and are you a tall guy or a short guy?
I wish more men were gay, it would be less competition
. But seriously though, Matt here has man hating tendencies that arose as a counterpart for his years of suppressed homoerotic fantasies. Think about it you two, you have so much in common. All those years of lonely nights listening to Queen. Tssk Tssk. I’d say it to your face any day Matt you fruit cup and If you had any problems with it I’d have a new tooth for my tooth collection.
hehe as a short guy, whom is about in a slim 5’5 frame, i googled “short guy”for fun or rather, soothing experience , which was why i got here and read the paper. i have skipped through almost all the posting above, and lots of emoitions also stir up wthin me as well. What makes me kinda different from short fellows on here , is I myself is a Chinese, whom was born in mainland China and never ever left it till now. Not too surprisingly, the topic of man height appears to be a global issue and i regret to inform that asian girls( or rather Chinese, japanese, korean girls) favor tall guys over short counterparts when it comes to dating stuff. But to be honest, when judging whether a girl attractive or not, her height does serve a item in the critia lift for myself. So it is quite fair for girls to think the same. In China, the height of 5’6 , or 170cm (if i correct right) for a guy makes a borderline deciding whehter a guy eligible to be a mate by girls. But I have to say that this thing is more likely to be just a say because there are a lot more to consider for girls to decide. And if one short guy really braves it out, he still stands a chance. I notice one fellow above hates being offered a chance as if being settled for girls, but the essence of life itself is about seizing a chance when it is due for my part. Nothing could be secured without you jumping give it a shot.
In China, god (if he or she is still out there ) is also created to meet our own needs. A guy who is stumpy but rich still can get the prettiest girl on campus, even before she graduates. Even i know rich guy does have charming personalities , which are afforded through his stuggle with life to make a fortune, pretty girls REALLY can be bought over. Dont tell me rich guys could only buy girls body not heart, love is gradually being treated as a childish stuff in modern thanks to this stinking growth of national wealth over years.
Sometimes i would wonder if i one day come to the us or somethere similar, girls there might not care about height as much on here. Seems like i am wrong. We are shallow alike. YEAH, human itself is shallow.
Sam,
OK, so you don’t like the homosexual comments, yes they were absurd. I give you that 100% but I hope you got the point. Many comments on here are absurd. What exactly are these people looking for? Why attack women and call them shallow just because they are interested in dating a certain type? (and please don’t give me this “we are all shallow” BS) Its not that hard to find a woman when you know what they want. It seems to me that many short guys expect all women to be attracted to them, but in reality thats just not possible, even for tall guys.
Its also funny how everyone simply accepts the argument that being overweight is due to overeating and not excercising. Weight is genetic for the most part, just like height.
Y u pickin on girls? Men AREN’T PERFECT EITHER
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Girls are very vain. My family believes that a man absolutely MUST be taller than the woman, preferably over 6 feet. Growing with extreme complexes about certain things, I could never stand for a partner to be taller, not such an easy thing considering I’m 5’10″. Not to say I wouldn’t consider it, I just don’t like to feel submissive in any way. My current boyfriend of almost 2 years is a head shorter than me. Stares are common, but I’ve got to say that he’s one of the sweetest, funniest guys you’ll meet. My mother hates him for his height though, so, lately, I’ve been wondering if it’s going to work out or not. I don’t think I’ll find a nicer guy. As for the vain girls out there, as long as you can kiss comfortably during sex, it shouldn’t matter!
Cally, you can’t let your parents dictate who you fall in love with. If your mother hates your boyfriend for his height, so be it. She’s not the one dating him and you both need to understand that. If you really value your mother’s opinion about your boyfriend and his lack of height, it might break the relationship. Saying it’s not going to work because your mom or dad doesn’t like him for something he can’t control is absurd. Be strong for yourself and for him. If you’ve been dating him for almost two years and your mother still has issues, SHE is the problem, not his height or you. I’m glad that you don’t feel the need to be submissive to a guy, but in reality, a person’s height shouldn’t make them feel dominant or submissive in a relationship. Still, I will tip my hat and wink my eye in appreciation of you. Not very often do you hear about a woman that doesn’t like to feel submissive or not needing a taller man to feel feminine. I’m guessing you can protect yourself in public, you have self confidence and your man is more than willing to protect you and treat you like the queen that you are. Best of luck!
You are the one who loves him. You happiness is what matter. If he is good to you, don’t worry about what a person says or feels, follow your heart. If you let him go, it may be a long time before you find someone just as good as him.
Women have the worst Napoleon complexes I swear. Its very funny to see girls prefer someone 6’4″ 180 to me at 5’7″ 150 even though my friend is an alcoholic who puts booze before the relationship, and I have my life together. No Debt, own my car, artists, athletic, academic success, look like Justin Timberlake list goes on. Height is only a foot in the door. Other places it doesn’t seem rough at all, Hawaii I am of normal height. I believe with the average height of 5’9″ and sd 2″ that leaves only 1/20 men over 6’1″ depending on the area of course. I do go to a school full of girls and get a lot of nasty looks, ignored, and not given a chance by a lot of stupid little girls who don’t know what they are missing. LOL I’m marrying foreign anyway foreign girls are far less shallow and have a better sense of sophistication without being as stuck up.
I have never had problems pulling more girls than my brother at 6′ because I am taller than most girls, and not scared to fight a bear to my death.
B.T.W. if you want a confidence booster, just go around offending people. I have more fun offending people on a daily basis than I ever did in a relationship. WOO Make sure you can either fight or run well though.
If those girls who discriminate that dating a short man is bad they are missing out a lot.
I’m 5’7″ (It’s short average but I still get called shrimp or shortie) I’m actually one of the very few nice guys who never cheats and is in it for the love and monogamy, and I bet almost every short guy is too. The reason why I developed the nice guy personality is from all the ridicule from being short, I separated myself from the others (which if short guys were accepted in society we would all be dicks) and I’m dating a girl who is 5’10″. Girls that are taller than guys need to be convinced “good things come in small packages” well that and the fact I’m well endowed helped me get a tall girl
Short men just do not attract me. That’s all there is to it, really. I am 5’5” and I have never dated a man shorter than 6’3”. However, you need to know that it goes both ways. Tall men like me too. My last boyfriend was 6’8” and he said that he always preferred women around my height or even shorter. Same thing with me. I like when a man is much, much taller than me. If that is superficial, so be it. I don’t mind men wanting big breasts, tiny waists, wide hips or what not. I accept it, but at the same time, I absolutely refuse to feel bad for wanting tall men. So, there you go.
Hey ValentinaVala,
At least you are being honest. That’s always the best policy IMO, so thank you for being honest without being hurtful. If tall men are what you desire in a mate, there’s nothing wrong with that. It’s wrong when you start insulting short guys or acting distastefully towards short people just because they are short. Everyone has physical preferences in a mate and there’s nothing wrong with that. When your physical desires become the primary focus of your life with no room for variety or flexibility, then it becomes a problem. This pretty much explains the number of single women who are strictly holding out for their perfect mate when in reality nobody is perfect. What do you do when a short guy approaches you? I guess it must be pretty easy for you to lie and say you’re involved with someone or do you simply say that you’re not attracted to the person in the nicest possible manner to not hurt his feelings? Not to sound mean, but maybe you don’t care about hurting some short guys feelings and tell him the truth with blunt force? I honestly refuse to feel bad for wanting a woman who is character driven, educated and also has a sense of humour. I like women that can make me laugh while at the same time keeps me interested in the conversation. Physically speaking, I don’t feel bad for wanting a taller, volouptuous woman with long legs because that’s what turns me on in a woman. Do I limit myself to my physical desires? Absolutely not because I am capable of being turned on by women of all shapes and sizes, especially if they have a mind that keeps me interested. What I don’t do is shut out other ladies outside of my physical preference because it’s not like I have much choice really. Western culture says I’m the least desirable of men so I tend to keep an open mind and an open heart for all women. On the other hand, so many women place height as their #1 criteria in choosing a mate and from experience I will say this. Average height women, between 5’3 and 5’7 are the pickiest about a man’s height. You have the most guys to choose from because a lot of the 6’0+ tall guys prefer smaller girls and they have a real tough time dealing with their masculinity being stepped on by dating a taller woman. Furthermore, average height women have a strong tendency to use high heels as the measuring stick against short guys as well as the “short guy can’t protect me,” excuse. Women 5’10 and up also use the high heels excuse but they don’t use the protector excuse as much as shorter women because their height is already intimidating to some men.
I am a male and I’m 5’3″ tall. I have always been very short my whole life. Even in high school I was 4’11″ in my junior year. I never let my height bother me and I have always had plenty of friends. I have always had plenty of girls who I have dated and had good relationships with them. Being very short like I am all girls are taller than me even the short ones when they wear heels. I think that when you get past thinking about height everything else falls into place. I have dated girls from 5’2 to 6’0 tall and the shorter girls are the ones that seem to be more concerned about height. The girl that was 6’0 was crazy about our relationship and she even wore heels when we went out.
My wife now is 5’9 and we have been together for 21 yrs and we are still nuts about each other. Our two girls are 5’11 and 5’10 and both are dating shorter guys.