You can say a lot of bad things about how men are judgmental about women, but you can’t say that a man judges a woman by her height. You’ll never see a man thinking to himself:
”Oh, wow. She just took off her clothes and is beckoning to me to come into her bedroom. She wants me to stay over and have sex with her tonight. Dammit. If only she wasn’t three inches shorter than me! Better I just go home and watch “The Real Gilligan’s Island” on my Tivo.”
What is it with women and their obsession with a man’s height? I don’t think I’ve read one “dating blog” where a woman didn’t complain about one of her date’s height.
“He was too short…”
“He definitely lied about his height in his Jdate profile…”
“If I wanted a midget, I would have fucked someone in the circus…”
What’s the big deal with you women? Haven’t you ever heard the saying, “The best things come in small packages?” Why do you really need a taller man? It’s all in your head. If you need to get something from the top of the refrigerator — that’s why they invented a step stool.
I’m not exactly sure why our culture considers it “better” for the man to be taller than the woman. I looked it up on Google, thinking it may be related to our hunting and gathering days. I didn’t find anything.
And wouldn’t it better if a hunter was shorter? Who’s going to more easily hide behind that rock — Tattoo from Fantasy Island or basketball star Yao Ming?
Hollywood hasn’t help things for shorter men. Even when a male star is short (and many of them are), they need to find a love interest that’s even shorter. Every once in a while, I see a female celebrity shopping in a Beverly Hills supermarket or drinking a coffee in Starbucks. It’s shocking to see how tiny they are. I think in real life, Jennifer Aniston is like 3 feet tall!
One of my best friends from New York is a fairly short guy. He’s married now, with two beautiful children. His wife is taller than him, and she’s never complained.
In fact, when I see this picture of Gary Coleman, I think it would be great to be his height. Never again would a woman say to me, “My eyes are right here, not down there.”
I guess the problem for a short guy like me is that the first thing anyone notices about anyone is their height. I also realized a lot earlier that many girls (although they wouldn’t always admit it) like feeling girly and protected. The remedy is to hit the gym haha, I’m 5′ 5 1/2″ (the 1/2″ is important lol), 170 lbs of muslce
, that generally gets rid of that problem.
Can believe this Julia..yeak the dummy above..He is 5’9″ , you are 5’6″..your the shorter one dummy..what does your shoes have to do with your actual height? Why don’t you wear 24″ heels this way you can claim you are taller than most of the players of the NBA..
Now we all see how dumb some women are and what all Men are up against..She thinks a guy that is 3 inches taller than her is Shorter than her..Guess if he was 6 feet tall..they would be the same height ???
Remeber one thing guys,
No matter how attractive the girl looks today..in 25 yrs you will be stuck with a old Bag of potatoes.
Be careful what you wish for (lol).
Most girls are whores. They will sleep with anyone. Whether your are tall or short. Just have a few drinks with her. Try not to pay for her drinks, but if you buy her a drink make it a shot. Also, give her those back handed compliments. Say things like; I don’t care what anybody says, I think you have a great ass. Guys just wanna get laid, enough of the pussy footing around. Treat girls like shit, they love it and will come back for more.
Pepin: I think I’m going to steal your line. That’s an awesome one! Apparently, giving back-handed compliments speaks of confidence to a woman. You’re not turning her into a whore; you’re genuinely attracting her.
Olivia: You are not comfortable with your femininity and will be unable to feel so with fooling yourself that standing next to a taller guy will magically make you feel that way. Being with men who really think you are sexy and a good person will. Height doesn’t necessarily translate into strength or fighting ability. If you spent time in a gym, you would learn that very quickly.
My2cents: You have to be kidding me with the way you look. And, 5’3″ may be short but it’s not THAT short for a girl. Why is it that guys have made those comments? Were they teasing because they liked you? Were they getting you back for acting nasty? Something else? Being attractive and approachable means a helluva lot to guys.
Anon: I second the good post. How many times have you guys gotten the question, “Are you a jockey?” I think it’s the most common one I get. Tonight, I got it from some girl shorter than I. I failed to give my usual line: “Why is that important to you?”. Typically that does work like a charm. I think I was caught off guard. This would be a good example of people giving us sh*t for no reason. This is not whining about how hard it is. It is harder. Period. But, it’s good to see the support on this thread.
The hunt continues. Cheers!
Olivia: lol, i think if you’re taller than the guy, you should be the one worrying about how to protect him.
I about five foot two. I hate it. Girls do like the taller guys. Why? I hate that. Once in awhile girls like me, but they are fat and overweight. Since the girls are picky about short guys, I can sure as hell be picky about fat girls.
I agree Pete. Although, you would get laid more if you lower your standards for the fatties. The fat ones tend to put out more.
Actully I am 5.10 I have dated many short guys even less than 5.0. I find it easy to be with shorter guys. They can not override me. Some times when we go out on long walks I used to carry my boyfriend in my hip like a child. If he refuses to be in my hip I just make him fully nude and then he accepts whatever I do. When I carry him nudely his penis gives me plesent touches in my hip and automatically semon pours into my hip.
Lol, nice Bhavana. I am not gonna tell you what to do. Be careful, cause little guys can still kick some ass. Just because the guys you date are smaller, doesn’t mean they won’t beat like your taller boyfriends do, you beast.
well, speaking of the chinese, my guy is chinese, and he’s fucking gorgeous. im 5’10, and he’s around 5’8 or 5’8.5. its not like i dont ever think about the height thing, clearly i do or i wouldent be on this website, i check in shop windows our reflections to gauge if we look stupid, sometimes i look at strangers to see the reaction and if they are thinking im weird for being with him, but the fact is, i know that is’s my problem, and im the one being a dick for thinking like that. also, he’s incredible, amazing in the sack and treats me well, i love him to bits and i cant imagine being without him. i know it sounds boring and corny but i do. i think, to be honest, if he was really skinny, i would struggle, but he’s stronger than me, and it turns me one. i dated one other guy once who was shorter and skinnier, for 5 years, but in the end i knew that i would struggle with the long term because he made me feel like an ogre, though im not over weight myself. but thats my problem i know, and i had to deal with it. the height thing bothers some, and it bothers me a little as in i do think about it, but i love my fella so ,uch its just one thing thats not as important as that, and its not a reflection on him, its a reflection on my insecurity and how i feel about myself. there are many thing s that could bring that out. but im not going to give him up because of what the world portrays as ‘ideal’. at the end of the day, i know we are both attractive people who would have beautiful babies, and i have to get over whatever my issues are. but on the other hand, the height thing is probably the closest that guys will feel to be able to understand the kind of pressure that girls are under every day to look a certain way because of the media based worlds we live in, especially when guys are so visually stimulated compared to girls (in general) when it comes to sex.
i just read the post by ANON, and wanted to say, hey you sound a pretty decent guy dont let it get to you. im in my mid 20′s as well, and with girls like myself, we think about height a lot too. im 5’10 as i said, and one of my female friends is around 6′ and as tall girls we get just as much shit from people. not now we are older, but at school i got it all the time… and it translates into self esteem as you get older until you develop a new way of thinking. i dont really care anymore, at least, not like i did, but ive never thought bad of guys for being short… just cursed myself for being too tall!! its how you are brought up or the learned behaviour you took on as a child/teenager. ad that dude going on about all women being whores…who was that…i had a look but i cant find the post… anyway, you are damaged, deal with it. you need help to respect people, you cant come on here talking about heith discrimination and then discriminate against sex. cock.
Hey Chrissie, great to have to you here. It seems to me that you like guys a few inches shorter than you. You are honest about dealing with the pressure of overcoming the societal norms of what a couple is “supposed to” look like, and that’s very cool.
Just as you need to be comfortable with your femininity, the guy you’re with needs to be ok with his masculinity. The skinnier guy you dated for 5 years was likely uncomfortable with his masculinity. Since I have an utter weakness for women much taller than I am, it’s hard for me to understand a guy going for a taller girl and not being into that.
The bottom line as you know is how you feel deep down when you’re around your boyfriend. It should just feel that good. And that positive feeling will override the foolishness and jealousy of others.
I can tell you that people can be very jealous of me talking to or going out with a girl about a foot taller than I am. Guys will hit on the girls I’m with and when the girl says I’m her boyfriend those guys often say something belligerent.
And that jealousy not only stems from strangers but I have gotten a lot of that from my own (short) parents. Despite the fact that they have met some of the tall girls I’ve been friends with and one of the models I went out with was on tv and is going to be in a movie, they still say I’m “too short” to date taller girls. I think jealous people are reminded of how they gave up on certain thoughts and ambitions when they see someone around them achieving that. It’s painful for me but I just know the type of girl I appreciate and won’t stop going for her.
It sounds like Bhavana likes to be in control so I don’t think she’s worried about dating a guy whom she wouldn’t be able to do that. On the other hand, sometimes girls like this are also tempted by the thought, even momentary, of the dude she appears to overpower being able to get one over on her. Sound like you are having just too much fun, Bhavana, but is it all true?
I am a short man. I am 5’5″ and once put two identical ads in two seperate papers in Baltimore. On one I put my height and on the other I didn’t. Both papers have a good circulation. I had 12 replies on the one without my height and none on the other. I changed them around with different words and switched papers with the height being on the other one and no height on the origional one with the height listed..guess what, yep. There is a payback when us short men get older. As women age and become less attractive that is when it is fun for us. I have been trying for eighteen years to find a normal girl after my divorce, she is on her fourth husband.but after all the dating groups, pwp and together, and every dating service around I finally think I am going to give up. I don’t look at the women for sexuality as much as when I was young, I look for compatibility. Trouble is that most that want to date now (40-55) are just strange and I am too old to un-strange them. So now because it is boring to keep looking and it isn’t fun anymore to treat them like they treated me earlier in my life..(I like you but I’m looking for someone taller…we can be friends! I hated that) At fifty six it’s just hard to jutify spending a couple of quality years wih someone before medicare. I screwed up years ago anyway. God gave me the perfect woman and I was too young and stupid to know it. My bad! By the way, there was a special on tv a few years ago called the last quiet discrimination in America. It was abouut short men. It was either 60 minutes or one like that. It was pretty sad for guys under 5’6″.I sometimes think I am somewhat bitter because it was so hard to find a good woman that was really attracted to a short guy back then. I had to kinda settle for what I could get…IE..my ex. I did everything I could to level the playing field but it was just like in school, being picked for the team, what a joke, wouldn’t even let me try out! Same with women. Even in the work place I was treated like a second class citizen. There was a company in Ky I worked real hard to build the territory for. When the position opened up in my section for a mgr, I applied and was told by the president of the company that I was too short. He wanted a taller man because of the need to cast a large shadow in the company. Did you know there isn’t a law on the books for protection of short men against that kind of discrimination. Ah, whaddaya do. Good luck to all young short studs trying to find their main squeeze, don’t settle for mean fat and crazy. We can’t do anything about our height, but there is no reason for a person to just be sloppy fat, unless they don’t care about themselves, and if that is the case, how can the woman care about u when they don’t care about their own health and appearance. Damnit don’t settle for it. Find a pretty asian girl that will appreciate you,They don’t necessarily look for the tallest oak in the forest, I know, that was my mistake that I am still paying for, she loved me and I was too stupid to know. Fat women may need love to but short men are not the dumping ground for women who don’t give a damn about their appearance. I’m not talking about a few pounds over weight, I’m talking about just plain well you know, the woman in shorts at the store that just bent over in front of you and almost put your eyes out. I don’t wanna hear that I shouldn’t feel that way and that just because I am short I should keep quiet because I don’t look that attractive cuz I’m short. I got news for ya, I was a short god, I weighed 130lbs, six pack abs, legs that could shove 260lb weighs on a universal gym 50 reps without breaking a sweat, I owned a sportscar (70 cuda) and could do 60 pushups,wore clothes from Macy’s. didn’t matter, girls that were short,tall,thin,fat,plump,white,black, still just wanted to be my friend. By the was I carried a big fat,long package, I went to bed with a woman in Colorado Springs that said, Where did you get that! I just smiled and..So don’t believe everything you hear. Be good and be as picky as they are.
I feel your pain, Rick E. At least you are taller then me. I am almost 5″3″..lol. I am pretty stocky though. I wieght about 175 lbs. Anyway, dating really sucks ass in general. Being short doesn’t help at all. I did the same thing as you with the dating add. I posted two adds online. One with my height and one saying I was 5″11. The one that I lied on got all kinds of responses. It felt good to ignor those ones. Sometimes I get a response from the adds with the real me. I don’t know how to proceed anymore. I don’t know if I should just not worry about finding a girl. After all, I never want to get married and nor do I want to have kids. I just want a chick to date and hang with. We’ll see.
Oh yeah. Mexican, women/girls tend to like us shorter guys too.
Pete, maybe girls are turned off by your bad attitude and not your height…
Chelsea –
there’s alot of maybes in this world.
But, I think from the overwhelming number of testimonies from short guys and their painful experiences with tall women and how the tall women judge/criticize and view them – I’m pretty sure Pete’s height is the factor that girls are measuring his self-worth, and not his bad attitude –
p.s. if the girls were treating him right, to begin with – he wouldn’t have a bad attitude, in the first place.
Chicken before the egg.
In my opinion, it’s best for us short guys to date shorter women. The ones that are around the same height as us.
My boyfriend told me about this page. He is really awesome and I love him. I am an inch taller than him and I am 5ft 5. I don’t wear high heels when we are together because he does not like it. I am totally fine with that. I can’t tell you how great of a guy he really is. I don’t ever think about his height. I actually met him online and knew he was short. I was a little hesitant at first. Once we started emailing and talking on the phone, I knew he was right for me. We have been togher for 4 years now.
I have been following the comments with interest, particularly the argument between Tatyana and Bruno. Bruno made a fair argument from a neutral point, which got bashed viciously by Tatyana. When he comes in defence, he is accused of a “Napoleon complex”. Apparently, people under a certain height are supposed to ‘compensate’ for it by being a nice little boy, so that women like Tatyana can later excuse themselves from dating short men by saying “he is a wimp”.
Anyway the concept of “Napoleon complex” is ironic as Napoleon was of above average height during his era. And despite the worst genocidal maniacs being exceptionally tall, no one calls tall people off for having Osama complex, Idi Amin complex or even Saddam complex.
Anyway it is a society like that, that makes me grateful that I’m not in America. In my country the community known for putting a premium on height is also the least educated and intellectual community. So that could imply that American women suffer from some “dumb bimbo complex”.
Though I’m standing at just 5’4″; I’m good-looking (I work very hard to keep in shape), smart, and rather funny in person, I’d say.
But I can’t help that women have an unreasonable bias. I don’t like to complain about stupid things like that anyway. We can complain about a lot of things, nobody is born with everything.
But if a woman tells me I’m too short, you can bet I will go straight to her deepest insecurity, just to be fair. Extra 10,20,30 pounds? At least you could actually lose those if you weren’t so lazy. Bad hair day? Is your face a little less than beautiful? Nobody can be absolutely perfect, you’re supposed to overlook some things in finding a partner. If you negatively focus on every arbitrary trait of someone, don’t expect lenience on your own.
And even so, I really am tired of the “what’s wrong with dating fat women?” comparison. I didn’t become short because I shoved junk food down my gullet.
And I say that even as someone who would forgive an imperfect physique on a great girl. Because I am sensible enough to give people a chance, even if they don’t meet every bit of my ideal criteria.
That said, I’ve never had too much trouble with women. Some people even seem to be able to like short guys!
As a short guy(5`5),it is much easier to date a woman who is the same height or slightly taller. Because very short and tall women all want tall men. I guess very short women and tall women are very insecure about their height and need a tall man to compensate
Height is not the issue. But does a woman feel comfortable being bigger and stronger than the male? Not really. Therefore, if she is taller, there is a good chance she will be stronger. And most women dont want to take on the role as the protector.
KC,
do you really believe that more height=stronger? this is often not the case for men and almost never for a women & a man. i find the idea that a taller man is a better “protector” to be ludicrous.
Almost nearly all women are taller than me. I don’t think there are any stronger than me…..I will crush them no matter how tall they are…..lol.
But seriously. I think any level headed person knows, just because a woman is tall; doesn’t mean she is strong.
And what is the deal with protection. What does a woman need protection from? Is she always being attacked or something? If that is the case, why would any man want that drama in his life anyway?
Nice to see so many taller ladies willing to give the shorter men a chance. By no means am i a short man, but i’ve always had a preference towards taller ladies, but you do sometimes see that prejuidice in their eyes, and its a horrible thing to see.
The tallest lady i dated was 6’3 and she had a body that was proportionate to her height. She would wear heels as we both liked the way it made us feel. I liked her being taller, as tall as 6’7, and she loved towering over me and feeling dominant (although her height never really correlated with dominance for me). Our relationship lasted 5 months, was not influenced by narrow minded people staring and pointing, and only ended when she felt it was okay to use her physical dominance,fuelled by alcohol, to embarress me in public. And yes, being picked up, shaken like a raggy doll, thrown on the floor, only to be picked up and mollycuddled, is embarrasing! And is definately a big mistake in public, so dont do it!
I now date a lady who is the same height as me. She does sometimes wear heels but still feels a little unusual being taller than me. I guess im going to have to work a little harder convincing her that she looks an absolute goddess when taller!
By the way, im 5’11
I was married to a guy that was 6’1. I am 5’2. I used t think that I liked a taller man, but I was wrong. These days, I prefer some one closer to my own height. 5’5 to 5’9.
I find this article very interesting but why do i only find a lot of older women stating the changes they’ve made in their life and giving short men a chance. Why does it take so long for them to mature and realize it doesnt really matter? Im 20 years old and im more interested in girls that are around my age and i stand at barely 5’5. Anyway dating and finding a girlfriend is only half the problem for me. Ive been schedule for interviews at many places and i do my best really…i try but no one really wants to hire me. Ive even had managers mock me, “Are you going to be able to reach all the way up there” or “You could probably fit in that icebox” and then maybe mock me and laugh about it more. Nobody says anything, and most of the time im shy and quiet and when someone does say something like that i tell them to shutup…but that is not really standing up for myself. Anyway….the past was the past. I know girls and guys have insulted me in front of me and behind my back all during high school….they knew i was insecure so i became afraid to talk to anyone because i felt they could see right through me. I was so shy,…but i would sometimes get anrgy, throw tamtrums, and basically a creep. Then when i became a bully people avoided me and said that i had the syndrome. I really hate people.
Im goodlooking and handsome alot of people say…but i dont understand why my height has hurt me right now. I use to have dreams but they are dead now because im not doing anything.
Im living with my parents, stop going to school, depressed, anxious, not working, im bodybuilding, not talking or making any friends. My life just sucks.
I partially want to blame myself but part of me knows its what society, females, the media, physics, and the existence of matter that hinders my ability to feel like a man.
Now my role model is Charles Manson, and i would love to see the world burn with the lovers in it. Im sorry, but i just want to kill you all.
So, essentially, I have to accept the fact that my “pool” of choices is smaller? I simply refuse. I think women are too superficial when choosing men. Judging men by height is just wrong and discriminatory. Short men should have the same oppurtunies as taller men.
I mean really the only advantages they have is being able to take longer steps and reach far to reach places.
It drives me mad really…i just upset and bitter against all women and tall men.
i also have a fine body and im skinny so weight is not a problem. Most girls dont want to be dating me….they just want to be friends so they can treat me like some kind of doll. Im not one taking very seriously. in fact, i was picked on by guys and girls alike because of my height. Insulted and put down….now im alone and living with parents.
Right now im weightlifting through, learning the katana, taking judo and taekwando,…so i can learn to kick a tall guys ass. And then when im finished with him i will blow off his girlfriends brains.
Gerik, where did you grow up? You know, you are still young enough that you can take HGH (human growth hormone). It can seriously add a few inches to your height. There are not any side effects at all. Ask a doctor or read about it and get informed about it. I wish I could have had that when I was younger. If a parent has a short kid, they can get HGH for him/her and they will grow to be taller. That’s one thing you can do.
At least you have a couple inches of height on me. I am 5’2. It is true that woman and employers discriminate against us because we are short and it sucks. But you can find something that works for you. Look at Danny Davito and Prince, neither of them are even 5ft tall. If you think your life has been tough, try being a dwarf. Have you ever seen the show Little People? They have it way more rough than us. I mean, I can still reach the gas peddle by moving the seat up, they can’t. If I need to get into a cubbard, I use a step stool. They use a ladder or a really big step stool. Anyway; we do have a little bit of tough times with our height, but it’s not the worst probelem in the world. So what, we can’t get dates as often as most.
Im growing up in hell. I tried hgh that but im supposed to be short (both of my parents are)_, poor examples….and yeah why do you want me to grateful for not being a dwarve? That same way of thinking and attitude is the equivalent of someone who is 6 foot and thinks about short-statured people. I bet people who are that tall are saying the same thing about both dwarves, midgets and short people.
And dont even get started with vegetable handicapped people. Im tired of this world and im tired of this perception. My desire to have lots of dates is high, but i have had none….not because of my negative attitude. But because im shy and quiet. I dont believe that my negative attitude reflects at all. Its at the end of the day that i return to my shelter and realize i have nothing. No real friends and no girlfriend. Im really sick of life and thinking, either i get sent to prision for life or i hang myself or something. I have no future.
What is it with you humans and comparing worst-case scenarios? I HAVE IT BAD IDIOTS.
Listen kid. You should never want to go to prison, especially for the rest of your life. Those guys in there would really take advantage of you. You thought you had it bad now. So I would advise taking you’re own life instead.
If that’s what you really want.
I think that if you are truly looking for love, you can’t limit yourself to appearances. I’ve always liked short guys, but was afraid to date them because I didn’t want to deal with the short man syndrome. A short guy approached me two years ago and while he seemed like he didn’t expect much to come from a taller girl, he talked to me anyway. I’m 5’4″ and he is 4’10″. We are happily married now and I can’t imagine living my life without him. He is truly everything I ever asked for and so much more than I deserve. If I had judged him for his height, I would have missed out on the opportunity of a lifetime. Ladies, don’t shoot yourself in the foot because someone else has an opinion. Live your own life, and be happy!
Interesting thread. Some things discussed I already new and have observed first hand, and also a chance to learn as well.
I am a 5’6″ male, 42 years old, divorced with 2 children, formerly married to a woman 5’10″ for 9 years.
My note here is mainly targeted to give you younger guys out there some hope
Yes, we live in a world where short is not a “preference” by most women out there, but you can’t let that stop you or get you down. Some short men have mentioned in this thread that they notice being short a disadvantage among dating as they get older, but I have found the opposite. My ex originally wanted to date a guy 6 feet or taller, but over time as she got to know me, that was not such a strict requirement anymore. Women over time- not all women but many – will tend to look at other characteristics in a mate that go beyond height.
And I also agree with the observation some guys have, that they get slaughtered so to speak on dating sites. I am using a dating site now (a big well known national one) and I can tell you height is the single biggest factor working against me. With more traditional ways to meet- live and in person – it is easier for us short guys to overcome this. Women here have observed that shorter men develop and perfect the things they can control – education, personality, fitness, humor – we also LISTEN better I think too! Because face it, we have to work harder than the taller guys do, and some women like it when guys work harder for their attention.
And I have nothing against tall guys either- I don’t see any reason to stereotype them as having smaller dicks or they are slackers or have no personality. I hope my son grows up to be tall one day, but if he doesn’t that is perfectly fine too. I have read some women post here that they choose a mate taller than them because they want their kids to be tall… that may have been a factor for me in choosing a tall wife, but really I was so happy a pretty girl was in love with me and wanted to be with me, her height would not have mattered we would have had kids anyway. With taller women for me, there is more of them to love, and long slender legs are a big turn on for me! Unfortunately the marriage ended but had nothing at all to do with any physical discrepancies.
OK short guys out there- just have a positive attitude and be willing to work harder than the average guy to find your woman! Get educated. Learn how to dance- women LOVE to dance! Become well traveled- go to Europe, Asia. Travel alone, women you meet on trips will see you are confident to travel alone, this will attract them! Chances are you will meet another confident woman traveling alone too, and these are the types of women who are not as threatened to go out with a shorter guy. Pick up a new skill or sport – take lessons to learn how to play the guitar. For me, owning a boat and becoming great at water sports has been a cant-say-no way to meet women- what girl doesn’t want to hang out in a boat, enjoy the water and sun, have some drinks??? Even room for friends too! So you live in a cold state? Then become a killer downhill snow skier or boarder. Develop some “edge” or advantage you can do better than most.. and I’m not talking poetry either, although some chicks do dig that
And I absolutely agree with guys who have said previously that if you think you have it tough being short meeting women, what about guys in wheelchairs, blind, and all these brave veterans returning from crap wars where they are losing limbs, and burn victims? These other guys are finding women who love them, they should inspire you!
I started off life short, then in my teenage years developed severe acne and my eyesight went to hell, so I had the not-so-fun experience of going through puberty with huge coke-bottle glasses as well! Well contacts and later RK surgery fixed the bad eyesight, the pimples did go away but I still have visible facial scars and still get a pimple now and then at my age (ugh!). But as you all know, there is not a surgery or exercise or book I can read that will make me grow taller. I accept that, work with it, not let it hinder me. I have two beautiful children, I keep myself in top shape, run half marathons regularly. Keep an active circle of friends to get out socially, as for short guys you will have better luck starting out with a “friend” – and if your female friend can’t see past your height, then at least she can say good things to her other single female friends who are more open to dating shorter guys. But don’t sit around feeling sorry about something you cannot change. You read confidence is a big trait women are attracted to, and I understand many of you are challenged to portray that, especially going thorough life where women are rejecting you before they even have a first conversation. Developing these other skills and becoming good at them to me has helped me in my confidence. That and adopt an attitude that you don’t care what other people think. Leave your house one night making a promise to yourself for example that you will talk to at least 3 women you have never met… seek them out. Tell yourself you know they may not answer you, may look at you strange, but you are going to try and start up a conversation. Hell start with short chicks to get you going, but don’t stop there. Go up to a group of women- they tend to travel in packs when going out
– and start off with something like such as “So what is the special occasion that brings a group of beautiful ladies such as yourselves together tonight?” Don’t go with a wingman, just go by yourself. Don’t forget to smile! Eventually the confidence will come, it is like practicing for a job interview if that helps 
You will get better at something you keep trying at.
As others have said (this is a great thread on life I think, not just for short people!), dating is tough for ANY height person, so do not attribute rejections to height alone. Yeah height is the #1 criteria women have I think across the board, just accept it or move to Japan or something
Just develop, improve, perfect what you do have control over, and get that confidence up! I do on-line dating because my schedule doesn’t allow me to get out as much as I would like, so I see first-hand women setting an arbitrary cut-off height, but I have found if you are within a few inches of those preferences, they are flexible – if you can make up for it in other ways!
Best of luck to you all- remember as short as you think you are, there is someone else who is shorter, and has found a compatible mate. And there are other who have true physical handicaps and have managed to overcome dating obstacles as well.
Fellas I’m 5,6 1/2 22 years old with a good gym body. I used to have a problem with my height and now I have just learned to live with it! I’m happy now. Hobby wise it’s good I’m a biker and proud of it, being tall means you are more AERODYNAMICLLY UNSTABLE, lanky on bikes, get black eyes for walking through low doors, not being able to duck easy in a punch up, and the list goes on, if a woman does not like my height then I’m probably best of without her. Cheer up fellas lifes not so bad ; )
This is what I have to say–
My boyfriend of over four years is close to three inches shorter than me, I think. (I’m 5’6 he’s about 5’3/5’4) I love his height. It bugged me at first, like it bugs most women but not because of my wanting him to be bigger. Like someone else said in a post, I just wanted to be smaller. I used to think I would never want to wear heels again. I would even think about how, when the time came, I could alter our wedding picture so that we looked to be about the same height.
All of this thinking was done in the first year of our relationship and I think back on it now and I am extremely ashamed in the way I felt. I mean, the average woman is 5’4 so, I’m a bit of a taller woman and I never thought I would be able to be happy about my height ever again. Now I love feeling tall. And I know he likes it too. When ever we are having sex, there are so many things we can do that would be impossible if he were taller. I can put my legs on his shoulders… and let me just tell you ladies, if you haven’t been able to do that before… it’s freaking incredible. Also, I disagree with the whole Napoleon complex thing… sort of. What I mean by that is, yes sometimes they can be more animated than taller men, but usually it’s just that they have the same amount of animation, just concentrated into a smaller (in my opinion, better) vessel. And to that statement amount penis size. NOT TRUE! My man’s dick is about 8 inches, well above average.
Carl pointed out your fallacy in aligning short men with Hitler. Of since it put your foot in your mouth, he shouldn’t have discussed this (so that people as stupid as you believe that short people make Hitler-like personalities).
It is true that us shorter dudes have a more difficult time getting dates. That doesn’t mean we don’t get dates. You know what is strange though. I have a lot of tattoos, but they are on my legs and body. A few months ago I started a sleeve on my arm. I don’t know if it was a coincident or not, but I have gotten a lot more attention from girls. I don’t get tattoos for the girls, I get them cause I love them. Now I have a girlfriend who is also short like me and she has tattoos as well.
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Short Men have been given the shove by MOST if not all Women in the Western World Period – their answer is “YOU ARE NOT WANTED – GO AWAY AND DIE!”
Now the TALLNESS MACHINE is ATTACKING ASIA – the Western Media is telling the women there that their Men are inferior and that they should stop playing with boys and get themselves a Real Man of over 5’11″ or taller to have men.
Well here in America we were all given “Life, Liberty, and the Persuit of Happiness” This was Written in the US Constitution by James Madison who became the 4th President of the United States. James Madison was 5’4″! He would turn over in his grave if he knew that Short Men have become the Laughing Stock of Western World by a bunch of Chicken Hearted Bullies who have convinced that Height Alone makes a Man – it doesn’t!
Now I have dated women around my size which is 5’4″ I have absolutely no problem with my height – but Women do and tell me. I have had women spit in my face, kick me and tell me off for even try to ask them out for a date. I have been called “Little Man”, “Shorty” or “Boy” by many women of all sizes including ones shorter than my height!
1 out of every 1,000 women will date a man under 5’7″ that is insane – I know I am not the only man who is 5’4″ and I am 100% judged on my height alone by women who consider short men inferior.
In today’s America the Short Man is not given the rights to “Life, Liberty, and the Persuit of Happiness”
1. Your life is not protected, you are the 1st to go if there is a layoff, or if there is something wrong – it’s your fault because you are Negative.
2. Liberty – you are not permitted to advance in the society – you are scoffed at by tall people and told to deal with it. (Because if you are protected – the lie becomes apparent that the tall people are no different and not superior or the fact they can’t bear the fact that they are big babies and we can’t hurt their feelings – screw that – but it’s perfectly fine for them to hurt short Men’s feelings – what a freaking double standard.
3. The Persuit of Happiness – well if society has decided that Short Men are inferior and convinced all the women in the Country that TALL is the most important thing in having a family and children – what happiness is there for the Short Men (What live your life, bitter, alone and miserable – just be happy we let you live attitude.”
“Just be happy we let you live attitude.” is why Short Men are Discriminated against – You are permitted to do anything else except your can have your life.
Tall People better wake up and think – because they will stop at nothing to shut down short men – because it pleasures them to the excess.
Rant my ass – I say to anyone over 5’11″ put yourself in a shorter man’s shoes and see what you do to them…..
Correction:
“Just be happy we let you live.” – attitude. is why Short Men are Discriminated against – You are not permitted to do anything else except your can have your life in your little place which we allow you to have.
This is total discrimination – like Jim Crow Laws in the South, and woman’s rights in the 1960′s. The Main Reason this is going to be hard to stop is – the woman’s rights movement
This report showed woman in dating chose the TALLEST MAN:
ttp://jrscience.wcp.muohio.edu/Research/HumanNatureProgArticles/dontwantnoshortshortmanFI.html
Another that shows that Shorter WOMEN GO OUT OF THEIR WAY TO NOT DATE SHORTER MEN:
http://www.seacoastonline.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080815/ENTERTAIN/808150306&sfad=1
So the answer is it’s basically a competition and SHORT MEN AND TALLER WOMEN ARE NOT INVITED.
umm I’m a 6’3 guy. Girls who are less than 5’11, you’re not that tall so stop complaining. There are plenty of tall guys for you. after all, guys ARE the taller gender on average, so that means there will be people who are way taller than you. I’m 6 inches above the average american male, so that means thats about a 5’10 female. A 6’3 female would pair with a 6’8 male. I’ve only seen a couple of people that tall, they seem to be equally uncommon.
Usually I’m always the tallest one for the majority of the places i go to. Women above 5’11 are extremely FEW and far between and they always have weird issues with their height. Whats bad is that sometimes taller girls, (like 6’1) get used to being around shorter men, so then they only go for short men. When i see an attractive 6′ woman with a shorter man, i get pretty ticked. why doesn’t the 5’8 man get A WOMAN under 5’8, theres billions of them. leave the tall women to tall men. its that simple. there are many MANY 5′ women in the world.
I am a 5’6″ male.I will say that I usually tend to look for shorter woman but I find all heights equally attractive.It is just a preference to me.But I think it is more of a social thing for girls.I did’t really think about this till last night when I had this smoking hot girl checking me out that is maybe two inches taller than me.If I am attracted to a girl that I think is attracted to me I usually dont have a problem talking to them but last night I just smiled back and stayed distant.I lost a chance to talk to a very attractive woman from being afraid of being turned down cause of being shorter.If I see her again.I think I’ll try to put my fear aside and go for it.I laugh at the short woman that say they only want a guy that is 6 ft or above.Grow up! (no pun intended)…
Oh and I think some of you guys complaining about being descriminated are just plain full of bs.I do not see this at all.Maybe in asia or what not.You remind me of the woman,blacks and mexicans that want equal rights but do nothing to deserve it.And I am not signaling out those groups.. just a select few in those groups that just like to cry and complain.Like you dont have nothing better to do?No wonder the woman are turning you down..
wow all this short talk is really interesting. im barely pushin 5’4 and sometimes find it difficult to get w the females im initially attracted to. i mean i usually dont have too much trouble finding good lookin females but it gets frustrating and confusing when everyone u know or meet thinks ur beautiful or extremely handsome and the women u want seem to not want u. i say this because i have gotten compliments like this and compliments on my personality and humor as well, but still get turned down by ladies my height, shorter and taller. i get frustrated because it seems so shallow to me. i mean, its not like im short and ugly or fat. i stay clean, naturally fit, blessed w good genes as far as everything else goes, but sometimes the height seems like a curse. to me its nuts that a woman would pass on a shorter guy that has everything goin for him except height, for a tall average guy, JUST BECAUSE HE IS TALL..its crazy to me.
also, i truly believe the whole short man tall man thing concerning our dick size is distorted in some ways. i have been told by many females that my dick was large, to my surprise. i was insecure about it b4 i started to have sex and really notice reactions and gettin comments like the above.
also, i dont feel it is right to criticize a man for not been attracted to a fat woman. a woman isnt born fat. i love all women but im not attracted to obese women. to me its a sign of personal neglect and lack of hygene in some cases. a fat person can work out and lose weight, a short person cant get taller. thats y i can say im not attracted to fat women.
AND,that women that deny shorter men JUST because of that, are shallow. obesity and height cant be compared. a short person gettin a curled lip or eyebrow from a woman wantin a taller man? that it nonsense. how can someone be held accountable for the genes they are born with. so i maintain my statement that women w these “preferences” are to some degree, shallow.
also..lol..
women talk about needing to feel protected. that makes me a little upset too because im naturally strong and physical, athletic. i played football for yrs, boxer, mixed martial arts. i’ve never had a taller guy get outta line w me without him being knocked on his ass. height as nothing to do with protection.im 5’4 180, 9% bodyfat. my unc is only 5’5 but like 250 mostly muscle, it must b a family thing. but i’ve seen him destroy ppl in the name of family. its just a misconception a lot of women have.