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		<title>By: Citizen of the Month &#187; The Orthodox Jewish Guy Outside the Supermarket</title>
		<link>http://www.citizenofthemonth.com/2005/06/23/want-to-join-the-tribe/comment-page-1/#comment-229010</link>
		<dc:creator>Citizen of the Month &#187; The Orthodox Jewish Guy Outside the Supermarket</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Aug 2008 23:56:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] years ago, I wrote a post advocating Jews trying to convert other religions. I was being a little tongue in cheek.   At the [...]</description>
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		<title>By: amber</title>
		<link>http://www.citizenofthemonth.com/2005/06/23/want-to-join-the-tribe/comment-page-1/#comment-4160</link>
		<dc:creator>amber</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Jul 2005 15:55:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I do wanna join.  I&#039;ve been thinking about it for a while, just because.  I&#039;m not really religious and there&#039;s no where here for me to join &#039;the tribe&#039; either, so maybe I just want it because I can&#039;t have it.  Really I&#039;m just curious about faith in general and the Jewish faith in general.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I do wanna join.  I&#8217;ve been thinking about it for a while, just because.  I&#8217;m not really religious and there&#8217;s no where here for me to join &#8216;the tribe&#8217; either, so maybe I just want it because I can&#8217;t have it.  Really I&#8217;m just curious about faith in general and the Jewish faith in general.</p>
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		<title>By: Neil</title>
		<link>http://www.citizenofthemonth.com/2005/06/23/want-to-join-the-tribe/comment-page-1/#comment-3046</link>
		<dc:creator>Neil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Jun 2005 21:15:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Welcome, Jill.  I&#039;d chat some more, but there are two Jehovah&#039;s Witnesses at the door trying to convert me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Welcome, Jill.  I&#8217;d chat some more, but there are two Jehovah&#8217;s Witnesses at the door trying to convert me.</p>
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		<title>By: Jill</title>
		<link>http://www.citizenofthemonth.com/2005/06/23/want-to-join-the-tribe/comment-page-1/#comment-3045</link>
		<dc:creator>Jill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Jun 2005 20:47:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi there.  Found you at 2blowhards.com.  I&#039;m probably a member of that same Beverly Hills temple, but at the High Holidays, I sit between two ICM agents.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi there.  Found you at 2blowhards.com.  I&#8217;m probably a member of that same Beverly Hills temple, but at the High Holidays, I sit between two ICM agents.</p>
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		<title>By: Neil</title>
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		<dc:creator>Neil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Jun 2005 07:08:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Proof that Jews don&#039;t run the world:  If we were really running the world, Burger King wouldn&#039;t be allowed to serve that awful sausage and egg thing on a bagel.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Proof that Jews don&#8217;t run the world:  If we were really running the world, Burger King wouldn&#8217;t be allowed to serve that awful sausage and egg thing on a bagel.</p>
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		<title>By: Esther</title>
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		<dc:creator>Esther</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Jun 2005 07:02:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Secret conferences? Sounds like we&#039;re running the world. And if we are, I&#039;d like a piece of that action. &#039;Cause man, my rent&#039;s friggin&#039; higher than Jay and Silent Bob outside a deli.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Secret conferences? Sounds like we&#8217;re running the world. And if we are, I&#8217;d like a piece of that action. &#8216;Cause man, my rent&#8217;s friggin&#8217; higher than Jay and Silent Bob outside a deli.</p>
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		<title>By: FunJoel</title>
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		<dc:creator>FunJoel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Jun 2005 00:24:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow!  This comment thread has really taken off today while I&#039;ve been slaving away!

Okay, so I&#039;ll just add two things.  First of all, for those who feel they can&#039;t speak about observance, or want to learn more, I am observant and am happy to answer questions, off the site.  But I don&#039;t judge others or try to convince people what they should do, which is why I&#039;m not rattling stuff off here!  If you want to know, ask, and I&#039;ll answer.

Secondly, while it is an established concept that Jews try to be an &quot;Or LaGoyim&quot; -- a Light to the Nations, this is different than proseletyzing and trying to convert.  The traditional understanding (at least in my understanding) is that the Torah, as a moral guide, is for the whole world, but that doesn&#039;t mean that everyone (in our beliefs) should convert to Judaism.  Rather, in the second portion of the Torah, there is a list of 7 basic laws that we believe all people must follow.  They are known as the Noachite Laws, or the 7 Laws of the Sons of Noah.  They apply to the world, who are not Jews.  In fact, there are Noachite Synagogues scattered around the world today -- people who do not want to convert to Judaism, but believe they should follow these 7 laws, and celebrate the moral traditions of Jews.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow!  This comment thread has really taken off today while I&#8217;ve been slaving away!</p>
<p>Okay, so I&#8217;ll just add two things.  First of all, for those who feel they can&#8217;t speak about observance, or want to learn more, I am observant and am happy to answer questions, off the site.  But I don&#8217;t judge others or try to convince people what they should do, which is why I&#8217;m not rattling stuff off here!  If you want to know, ask, and I&#8217;ll answer.</p>
<p>Secondly, while it is an established concept that Jews try to be an &#8220;Or LaGoyim&#8221; &#8212; a Light to the Nations, this is different than proseletyzing and trying to convert.  The traditional understanding (at least in my understanding) is that the Torah, as a moral guide, is for the whole world, but that doesn&#8217;t mean that everyone (in our beliefs) should convert to Judaism.  Rather, in the second portion of the Torah, there is a list of 7 basic laws that we believe all people must follow.  They are known as the Noachite Laws, or the 7 Laws of the Sons of Noah.  They apply to the world, who are not Jews.  In fact, there are Noachite Synagogues scattered around the world today &#8212; people who do not want to convert to Judaism, but believe they should follow these 7 laws, and celebrate the moral traditions of Jews.</p>
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		<title>By: Sophia</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sophia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Jun 2005 23:52:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The fact is that throughout Jewish history conversion was both welcomed and encouraged.  Many scholars believe that in the Bible, the Jewish People became &quot;Chosen People&quot; to spread the light of Judaism.  

Rabbi Schulweis, one of the most prominent progressive American rabbis, always gives these examples: 

The prophet Isaiah declared that God had &quot;created and appointed you a covenant people, a light for the nations,&quot; and that the Talmud states that &quot;God exiled the Jews from their homeland for one reason: to increase the number of converts.&quot;

Jews were extremely active and successful proselytizers throughout the Roman Empire, until such activities were made a capital crime and forcibly suppressed when Christianity became the state religion.

Here&#039;s an interesting article on the subject:

WHY THE JEWISH PEOPLE SHOULD WELCOME CONVERTS 
Judaism, vol. 43, no. 3 (Summer, 1994)

http://www.convert.org/judaism.htm

Do I think it&#039;s a good idea?   You bet your Kosher turkey bacon.    Am I comfortable doing it myself?   Not really.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The fact is that throughout Jewish history conversion was both welcomed and encouraged.  Many scholars believe that in the Bible, the Jewish People became &#8220;Chosen People&#8221; to spread the light of Judaism.  </p>
<p>Rabbi Schulweis, one of the most prominent progressive American rabbis, always gives these examples: </p>
<p>The prophet Isaiah declared that God had &#8220;created and appointed you a covenant people, a light for the nations,&#8221; and that the Talmud states that &#8220;God exiled the Jews from their homeland for one reason: to increase the number of converts.&#8221;</p>
<p>Jews were extremely active and successful proselytizers throughout the Roman Empire, until such activities were made a capital crime and forcibly suppressed when Christianity became the state religion.</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s an interesting article on the subject:</p>
<p>WHY THE JEWISH PEOPLE SHOULD WELCOME CONVERTS<br />
Judaism, vol. 43, no. 3 (Summer, 1994)</p>
<p><a href="http://www.convert.org/judaism.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.convert.org/judaism.htm</a></p>
<p>Do I think it&#8217;s a good idea?   You bet your Kosher turkey bacon.    Am I comfortable doing it myself?   Not really.</p>
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		<title>By: Jack</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Jun 2005 23:01:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This post made me smile.</description>
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		<title>By: Michael Blowhard</title>
		<link>http://www.citizenofthemonth.com/2005/06/23/want-to-join-the-tribe/comment-page-1/#comment-2092</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Blowhard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Jun 2005 21:07:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Funny posting, thanks. Still, I always had the vague feeling that many of the shrinks, profs, writers, and intellectuals this Christian-raised boy has known were trying to convert me to &lt;i&gt;something&lt;/i&gt; like Judaism. Good lord but they could be adamant and full of fervor. Maybe Jews are as into proselytizing as any other religious group, they just do it indirectly?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Funny posting, thanks. Still, I always had the vague feeling that many of the shrinks, profs, writers, and intellectuals this Christian-raised boy has known were trying to convert me to <i>something</i> like Judaism. Good lord but they could be adamant and full of fervor. Maybe Jews are as into proselytizing as any other religious group, they just do it indirectly?</p>
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