Jeez, this skinny model/actress thing is getting out of hand. Here are Nicole Richie and Lindsay Lohan.
(photo via D*iana’s Dirt)
Here is Valerie Lefkowitz, a plus-size model.
(photo via Judgement of Paris)
Now, honestly, which of these women looks best?
well linsay and nicole did look better before losing all that weight, being skinny is not a problem if your naturally like that, but we all know those girls are not naturally built that way… being too heavy is not a good thing either…
I think Valerie looks great! Picking the best goes way beyond these two photos. Yeah, Nicole and Lindsay DO NOT look healthy and YES, I think that Valerie does look healthy. I read a lot of these comments and agree with me or not, but doesn’t Val have the sexiest eyes!!!
The nasty skinny women would be popular here in Tahoe. Every man here wants my bony flatchested friend, and not me, and I’m as voluptuous as the plus sized model, who looks better. My bony friend has the nerve to think she’s prettier than me. Hah! Anyways, screw skinny women and Tahoe, I’m outta here!
I can’t believe your skinny friend would even think like that, let alone tell you that! Some men might not want a big woman but I know for sure that a LOT of men do not like rail-thin women. That’s interesting about the flat-chested part. I know most guys like boobs – fortunately for me, my hubby is a butt man!
I definitely have a butt, but no boobs LOL. He loves me just the way I am, but I’d love to lose a few lbs….I’m 5’4″ and weigh 140. So 125 or 130 would be good. Anyways, don’t let that get you down at all, (about the men liking your skinny flatchested friend)…..and really, we shouldn’t hate skinny girls and say they suck – but I’ll tell ya what I do hate: when a real thin chick says “I gained 2 lbs, I need to diet and get rid of it” – I want to slap them because they ARE ALREADY THIN and they have the nerve to say stuff like that! That irks me….
Oh and I grew up in Reno – just down the mountain from Tahoe. Are you in the casino biz by chance?
Have a nice day! Steph F.
I THINK THAT THERE GROSSE THEY LOOK LIKE TO STICKS AND BONES ITS DIGUSTING THE PLUS SIZE MODOL LOOKS WAY BETTER WHEN YOU KISS YOUR GIRLFRIEND DO YOU WANT HER BONES STICKING INTO YOU? NO! THEY LOOKED BETTER BEFOR HEALTHY AND AND HAD CURVES WHO WANTS A SKELOTON
i think that these girls are doing the same that any other teenager girl is doing its just the whole world knows about it and i feel that they should not be judged for makeing there own mistakes x
they look sickly, like two great big bobbleheads on a popsickle stick. Paris is skinny too, but I think she is naturally built that way an doesnt look
sick. i think nicole got jealoused of Paris Hilton.
anyone who says the plus sized is better, is only trying to be nice. I hate to break it to everyone but Valerie is FAT. Lindsay and Nicole may be UNDERweight, but i would WAY rather be under than over. I prefer Lindsay and Nicole anyday. Theyre both hot. Valerie is not.
how cn ppl say valerie is healthy, wen she is overweight, whihc makes her the complete opposite! whether ppl think she looks good or not, no one cn say she is healthy when he bmi is probably way to high. every1 critised nicole and lindsey for being too fat, now they have lost it ppl are critising them agen. i believe its cos they r jealous. i wud love to lose some weight like nicole and lindsey, good for them, and well done to them.
First off.. someone throw a cheese burger at these girls, they’re dying!! Second, it’s not their fault… they live hectic lives… But what I will hold against them is that they have all this money, they should have a good NUTRITIONIST at hand.. especially if they live their lives this way. So yeah, they’re sick, that’s all and they need help.
PS: For those ranting on the plus size model… believe it or not, this was the size Marilyn Monroe started off, a size 14.
I actually know what nicole and lindsay are going through!i was once anorexic and it is a horrible thing to be. it all started when i was only 15 and i wasnt even chubby i really was slim but there was a VERY skinny girl in my class andf she called everyone fat and i took it bad . on average every day i would only eat 1 slice of ham and a gram cracker witha botlle of water………..i almost died. i am still very thin but now i actually SEE myself.i am not very beautiful when thin when i look at pictures from before my problem i look much better then i do now.But even still when i have endured anorexia and bulemia I think that SLIM is the most beautiful.you are healthy but still look good in jeans.i personally hate all this crap about “curvy” this is just what fat asses call themselves to make it sound less harsh!look all you need to do to be slim is exersise properly.dont eat fizzy drinks.eat healthily.dont eat sweets(well 2 treats a week is fine)
tHATS MY OPINION I COULDNT CARE WHAT SHIT YOU PEOPLE HAVE TO SAY ABOUT REALLY.PERSONALLY DONT DISS OTHER PEOPLE. A GOOD SAYING IS “DONT DISH IT IF YOU CANT TAKE IT”
obviously thats airbrushed..
Ya know.. that fat one? yeahh
i like nicole richie & lindsay
WAYYYY better.
The disgusting skinny ones are obviously disgusting drugies and depraved people. The larger model looks good more natural. Maybe lose 10 lbs but overall healthy and probably HAPPY!!!!
Unless you airbrushed Valerie’s picture yourself, no matter how “obvious” it seems, you don’t know how much or what was airbrushed.
Not all “sticks” are drug users.
Not all “cows” are disgusting slobs who do nothing but eat McDonalds’ all day, nor do they all have cellulite. Fat does not equal cellulite. Tyra Banks (who is not big at ALL) came out on her show and said that she’s had cellulite since she was little.
The average American woman IS a size 14, but that doesn’t mean that all of them overeat and don’t exercise.
In my opinion, the reason that Lindsay Lohan and Nicole Richie are that skinny is they’ve bought into what the media has brainwashed us into believing: You will only be desirable and successful if you fit into a size 4 or lower.
In my opinion, the reason Valerie is plus-sized is because she took what nature gave her and didn’t change herself so a bunch of asswipes will accept her. Besides, she’s a model. I’m sure the company she works for requires her to exercise and eat right. Hmmm…exercises AND eats right? But she’s still plus size. How could be? (sarcasm)
But why are we arguing about this anyway? Why do we care if a couple of celebrities might be underweight? Why do some people bitch and moan if they see someone who isn’t aesthetically pleasing to them? Has anyone ever heard of inner beauty? Does that matter anymore?
Who cares? Honestly? Valerie, although technically “overweight”, is not a disgusting slob. She’s attractive and can’t be more than 170 pounds or so.
I personally think Nicole and Lindsay look awful – but then again, I feel sorry for them. It must be difficult to have your looks criticized all the time.
Im 16, Live in Australia and am a size 12. I believe this is an unfair comparison, I also believe the statement that every other country sees everyone as beautiful is very false. Australian girls a subjected to the same bullshit, Too fat or Too thin theory every day, we have 12 year old girls starving themselves purely because what is in magazines and on tv, its drilled into their heads that it is ‘perfection’ to be size 8, with perfect breats and a flawless smile when 90% of the photos in magazines are airbrushed.
When will we learn, stay healthy.. Dont starve yourself and dont live off take away. So many people give into the pressures of the media, who are getting paid for making the youth of today feel they arent, nor never will be ‘OK’.
I don’t think Lindsay or Nicole looks good. If I had to pick one body to have, I’d prolly pick Valeries, just because I wouldn’t blow away in the wind. But if I could pick any celeb bbody ever, I’d pick Beyonce’s. Not fat, but no skeletal either.
Bad comparison – thats a partciularly bad pic! nicole and lindsay r gorjus if ther skinny or curvy! i prefer skinny 2 “plus size”!!!
If you are plain with clearly visable womanly assets, you get hell of a lot more attention than being plain with pimples (and I don’t mean on your face) I have been 9st at my smallest (I looked like a boy!) and 12st at my ‘regularist’ I know which look people preferred
We big girls are better at keeping a partner warm at night *wink* 
It all depends on the structure of the body. Some girls are born with wider hip bones, fuller breasts, and bubble butts. Some girls are born with no shapes at all. Shapes give the appearance of carrying too much weight. When in all reality a lot of them are at their normal weight. Catherine Zeta Zones, Marilyn Monroe, and Mae West are considered plus size and hollywood has held them in high reguard. But on the contrary many thin actresses have reached just as high heights. Look at Ally McBeal, Nicole Kidman, and Audrey Hepburn. When my sister was in high school she would vist my mother who worked at a psychiatric hospital. My sister was thinner than the anorexic on the ward. But it was purely natural. She didn’t gain weight like normal people. She ate normally and wasn’t anymore active than any other girl her age. Instead her metabolism would burn it off before it would show. She was 95 pounds then and now that she’s older her metabolism has slowed down and she weighs 130 pounds now and looks average.
As we know… every so many years the trend changes from Thin to Plus size. The 20′s were all about thin without any curves… any curves you did have were to be bound with gauze… and in the 50′s thick was back and curves were the rage.. and now thin is on top again. It’s a cycle that’s never ending. But so be it. Everyone has a different opinion… Some are envious.. some are sexually inclined.. or based on media or memories. Either way both can be healthy in moderation.. not too overweight and not too under weight. But really there is a wide range of weights that can be healthy depending on your height and curves. I’d say that the plus size model is healthy. You can be heavier and not have rolls.. I know this from personal expirience. Though I don’t know the model’s background. Maybe this isn’t her normal weight.. maybe she has been thinner… It’s really a doctor’s call on that one. As for Nicole and Lindsey… They were average weight before and I’m guessing it was natural because now they’re dieting and excercising (some say bulemia or anerexia) But they LOOKED healthier before. But who’s to say… we would really need a doctor’s opinion on that. But really… what is it any of our concern? Isn’t their acting suppose to be more important than their weight? Who are we to judge? If they’re doing it because of pressure.. isn’t it us.. the viewers who are tbe force? Maybe more people should find inner happiness instead of replying on the opinions of others to maintain a sense of self-worth. If your skinny or fat and your happy with yourself… your alright in my book. That’s the way it should be. My tastes are determined by talent and personality… not the size of your pants.
Take Care, Nichole xoxo
I think a lot of people need to stop and just realise that body image in today’s society is getting ridiculously out of hand. Yes, Lindsay used to be a little heavier, and some may say healthier looking, but who are we to say whether she is taking ‘crack’or has an eating disorder? Valerie looks good, and it is likely that is her naturel shape. What annoys me most are the people who claim that ‘women who have bones pointing out are unhealthy’! Too many people are forgetting that we all have completely different structures, and I myself happen to be just under 9 stone, 5ft 7″, and im perfectly heathly thankyou. And YES, my bones do show, so am I ugly? Please, stop caring about celebrities’ figures and take a look at your own and decide whether you are happy AND healthy before critising others’.
Ok. Someone should seriously put up some pictures worth comparing. Let’s put it this way: Airbrushed Skinny Model vs. Airbrushed fat model, and non-airbrushed skinny vs. non-airbrushed fat.
There IS such thing as too fat, and too skinny. Basically, you need to have enough fat on your body to maintain if something happens to you (you get lost in the woods or sick), and you can’t have so much fat that it makes it difficult to move/breathe/exercise, or clog your arteries.
Neither extreme is good. I personally am 5’5″ and weight about 145…I’m like a size 14 US. I feel fat as fuck right now, and to be honest, i DO want to be thinner (although, not really…My boobs aren’t that big anyway, and if i lost weight, I could say “bye bye” to them.)
you know what? If people love me for being who I am, they don’t care if i am thin or fat, as long as my health is not at stake. I tend to think all my friends and people I like are beautiful, while people i dislike are ugly. However, I would tell my friend if i thought that she was to thin/fat…I want everybody to be happy and alive…
I would still probably like the fat chick better if she weren’t airbrushed, just because Lindsay and Nicole have ADMITTED to being too skinny and are getting help.
If THEY’RE not happy with their weight, and its them living it, why are you so happy with it?
Leave people alone or at least give an equal standing for judgement…
Remember, or learn if you haven’t learned it yet, Martin Luther King Jr.’s statement “I have a dream that my four little children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin but by the content of their character.”
Well I have a dream too, that one day humans will not judge each other by the shape or size of their bodies “but by the content of their character.”
I am a VERY skinny woman. I have no figure of any type – and even when I am at my most fit and healthy, I can see the bones in my chest. My chest is just built that way. I can run several miles every other day, work out with weights, etc. (and I eat very well and am neither eating nor exercise disordered,) and never will I develop curves. I HATE being skinny, but even when pregnant and nursing I could not gain weight. Skinny women ARE NOT EVIL. Some of us are very passionate and sexual beings, but our culture treats us as if we are sexless freaks who could simply eat more and be “normal.” Both men and women feel free to insult us to our faces, when they would never insult (at least within hearing) the most obese person.
And the situation is probably even worse for skinny men. SO LAY OFF!!! One way or the other, almost all of you who have posted favor one or the other cultural stereotype – and you don’t give a damn about the person within the body. Shame on you all.
It’s possible to have thick thighs [without gobs of cellulite] and flat stomach. I know a girl who looks like that, and I’ve seen her naked. She is delicious. So yeah.
any fellow ED girls, im with you. while personally i think nicole and lindsay(while she was this thin) look great, to each his own ya know? i mean the plus size chick isnt ugly, however i would kill myself if i were that big. thats just me. and this is just them. people should have the right to do with their bodies what they wish, regardless of health issues. it may be unhealthy to weigh 87 pounds and be 5’3″, but if it makes some one able to bare living with themselves(and im speaking from a personal view here), they should be able to do that. and if you want to be healthy, average, slender, overweight, obese, or whatever, DO IT. you all should stop telling people what is beautiful, and what is healthy, etc. because guess what, if some one is anorexic, they are most likely not doing it so YOU will approve of them. its a self satisfaction type thing. so just stop.
and if you are trying to make a valid point can you people PLEASE stop using acronyms and things like “lil” “sumfin” and the number “2″ to express a 2 letter word?
All this spew in the media machine about image; how to look, what to wear.
Women who look outward instead of inward turn into clones. Work on improving your soul and you’ll never get dangerously obese or underweight.
Although Nicole and Lindsay DO look pretty unhealthy in that picture, not all skinny women are so sickly looking. I have an aunt who probably only weighs about 100 lbs but she looks very pretty and healthy.
I don’t think Valerie looks unhealthy at all. She seems to be the weight that she should be. I am ‘plus sized’ myself and even though I know I am like this genetically, I still give myself crap about it. Although I know I am overweight and I am trying to lose it, I would not try to be as skinny as Lindsay and Nicole are. Not all bodies are made for that. I was built with bigger bones…I mean, I weigh 170 lbs at only 17 and my ribs still stick out! With all of the beautiful 95 pound models and actresses being idolized and everyone calling people my size fat, of course I’m going to feel bad about myself. People shouldn’t judge someone so harshly when genetically, they have no choice whether they are overweight or not. And you can’t just say “Eat more!” or “Diet and exercise!” because for some people it just doesn’t work.
I don’t really know what kind of point I made so let me try this again. Skinny or fat isn’t really ‘bad’ if that is how you are naturally built. What’s bad is if you resort to starving yourself to become skinny, or allow yourself to become so sedate that you become fat.
I mean sedentary.
i agree that lindsay and nicole look sickly. lindsay’s head is way out of proportion with the rest of her body. her skin looks dull, almost white. it’s really gross. but on the other hand, i’d prefer looking like nicole, rather than Valerie. AND, when you’re thin, you can always eat more and still be in the thin half.
ok ppl siriusly if this matteres to any1 i think that nicole is in proportion she has a very tiny bone structure and her body weight shows that off so shes in proportion she could do with a little weight but shes ok lindasay was soooo much better b4 she had beautiful tita beautiful curves good skin a strong fan following now shes just wreked her whole image as a role model physically and mentally shes an idiot i hate her either way n that pic just makes her look a billion times worse hail to whoever put it up lol … on the other hand the plus size model is a little too large 4 my likeings if i lookd like that i would cry
i like skinny but my body structure doesnt account for that! im a good old size 12 – 14 auzzie sizes and im quite happy the way i am im a pretty girl and yeah! i dont need to b fat or thin to make a point! add me b.a.r.b.i.3@hotmail
I like valerie
I dont see why this is such a BIG deal
valerie is WAYYY more beautiful
but that is just my opinion
people can be whoever they want to be!
and none of them asked us for our opinions!
Ugh. I hate when people post two extremes and make us choose. It’s like that “What Would You Rather” game, where they give you two TERRIBLE choices and you have to pick the one that would be the slightest bit less vile even if the option sucks.
No offence or anything, and this is just my opinion but ALL of these girls look very much un-attractive. Nicole and Lindsay look like skeletons. I honestly don’t see why ANYONE thinks that this is attractive. WHat girls these days don’t get is that the only people who think that emaciated look is the only way to look “beautiful” are other emaciated girls and girls with a messed up view on what looks good. I am SOOOOO glad that Lindsay put the weight back on, she looks even BETTER than she did when she became and a skeleton and even before that.
I am also really happy that Nicole realizes that she is at an unhealthy weight. She said in an interview that she knows that she is at an unhealthy weight and that she wouldn’t want other girls to go to extremes to look like her. She has put back on some of the weight and I think she looks absolutely adorable now. But she could stand to gain like 3-5 more pounds and then she’d look great
Also, Valerie isn’t very attractive in my opinion. I think that being overweight is on the same level as being scarily skeletal. I know that some people are just born that way but it is just my opinion like I said.
I think that the best body type is the in-between. I like the not too fat, not too skinny look. People like Adriana Lima, Emma Watson, Gisele Bundchen, even Paris Hilton.
I am naturally very skinny bony actually. Not in all places like my ass though, so I find it weird. Like, I can see my ribs if I stretch and my shoulder blades come out. It doesn’t sound attractive, I know. But seriously, I’ve ALWAYS been tiny. And YET I eat a lot. If I get started on Narchoes, I can’t stop until they’re gone, I can eat a whole block of chocolate to myself – and still look bony and yuck. And yet there are woman who can’t even eat a lot of chocolate otherwise they put the pounds on.
It’s simply down to genes.
And, because Lindsay started off as a heavier girl, skinnyness is not in her genes. Neigher in Nicole Ritches. She started off as rather chubby too. Now, she does look sickly thin. And, she once proclaimed that shes “naturally skinny”
Yeah..the photos from when she was bigger tell a different story dont they.
Arrgh, just eat when you’re hungry. And do not eat when you’re not hungry. Eat when you’re hungry and your eating healthily. Stupid Hollywood idiots.
They put a bad name on slim people. Now people go around saying I’m too skinny. I get called “lil one” by two guys. When I was ten or so, this girl said I was Anorexic. Hmm an anorecix ten year old? As far as i’m aware, axorexia comes from refusal to eat, hence making your body sharply skeletal, and sooner of later your organs shut down.
Six years onwards, and I’m still alive…duh. I do want to be bigger, that’s why I eat like a horse, but I guess “You can’t fatten a thougherbread”
And about which pic looks better, obviously the second one of the plus-sized model. I don’t know why so many of you think she looks ugly. Her face is very pretty, and she has lots of beautiful hair, AND she’s a healthy size.
In my opinion, neither. What happended to happy medium. What happened to size 6 or 8? It’s all 00 or 16!
Models are out under pressure to be skinny, and are slagged off anyway. But really. just stay a size 6
The photo of the “plus-sized” model doesn’t look very realistic. It is obviously air-brushed because, even though she is a beautiful woman, women of her size unfortunatly come with cellulite and rolls. I don’t support being “plus-sized” only for health reasons. People need to realize that it is important to be a healthy weight, and not only for cosmetic reasons. The same goes for Nicole and Lindsey though. They are obviously below a healthy weight, and quite frankly they both look very sickly. Everyone who is fighting for Nicole and Lindsey saying that they look great sickens me. It sickens me that this is what society has become! They are NOT HEALTHY! I have been researching weight issues recently and in fact, they both fall below a healthy BMI. You know what, for everyone who thinks that they look great, fine, but understand that it is just as unhealthy for them to be too thin, as it is for a “plus-sized” model to be over weight. Plain and simple. If you’re not going to judge someone for being too thin, than at least do yourself a favor by not being a hypocrite and judging the “plus-sized” model.
Hey,
all i say is nobody is born perfect. Media doesn’t even help with that belief. All it does question your insecurites through commercials. It’s stupid!
Ha, look at the pictures with lindsay and nicole, i wouldn’t surprised if it’s computer enhanced…look at lindsay’s head…isn’t it too big for the picture?
Anyways, being a bag of bones doesn’t mean one is healthy..it means there is a problem.
I think curves look way better on us women. I mean why risk our lives to going extends of wanting to be so thin?
My thing is hey, as long as you are active in some way or the other and you love yourself enough to take care of yourself…your already half way there!!
Valerie is hella sexy, she got ass,legs, places to hold on to
from the 1st time i saw your pic in a kmart ad i said you’re the sexiest bbw in the world love ya babe
Wow…there’s a ton of disscussion here regarding something of non-substance…….
I know someone who is very tiny because she was born prematurely, and now has an abnormal thyroid. She gets crap all the time about being anorexic, and that’s not fair. She gets this shitty rap from girls who strive to be skin and bones while she is just like that. The girl eats. Not only that, I’m betting regardless of her thyroid, she would still probably be pretty small. Her build is very tiny. With or without her thyroid problem, she’d probably be smaller. The point is, healthy is different for everyone. Duh, Nicole and Lindsay look too thin. I’m not arguing that. I think a person’s weight should fit their body. I’m big-boned. If I was a rail, I’d still probably be a size 8, and according to our society, that’s not skinny. It’s almost not normal. Anyway, it’s not fair that naturally thin girls get tons of shit for being smaller. It’s not fair that we look at anorexia and bulimia as these absolutely repulsive and fucked up diseases when obesity is too. No one would dare go up to a fat person and say “Are you obese?”
Baby Gurl IX could possibly be funnier than Neil.
Just unintentionally so.
Man, do I want to read her blog!
I think that Valerie looks better than Nicole and Lindsay. She looks healthy and happy. While the other two look like bobbleheads. They have no curves, which is what a woman needs to have. I will never ever want to look like Lindsay and Nicole. It is disgusting. How can anyone find that attractive. It makes me want to throw up. I can’t believe people Lindsay and Nicole as role models.
linds and nicole look ill, even though now lindsay has gained her curves back and nicole is trying. Nicole isn’t anorexic shes bulimic whitch means her stomach cnt handle to much food. The other one is not over over weight but i’d rather be her than them
Any man that can possibly find Lindsay and Nicole attractive at that weight, has to have serious issues. They are built like little boys. The “plus size” model looks like a woman!!
you all sit there complaining about how there stick thin yet you don’t stop to think why? …hmm maybe its because people are always comparing them to someone else. who’s thinner than them or fatter than them.
Maybe if people weren’t so critical and kept there catty comments to there selves people wouldn’t be suffering with anorexia or bulimia would they? everyone would be happy with who they are, but no theres always someone telling them what they should and shouldn’t look like.
Everyones so flipping obsessed with their weight! why can’t people just accept them as they are?
Fair enough Lindsey and Nicole do look seriously ill but if it wasn’t for people like you/media they wouldn’t be like that in the first place would they?
Valerie looks beautiful and healthy. Lindsey and Nicole are just two girls overwhelmed with fame and stress, which resulted in an eating disorder. Yes, they are too skinny but they have a disease which they cannot control.
i agree with all, well… most of your comments about lindsey and nicole and valerie but i have to say im thinking mabe the media pushes stars to A POINT WERE THEY feel like the have to go to extreme measures to look beautiful and thin so they dont eat even though they certianly afford food just to please papperrazi and and there “fan” sooo neways what im trying to say is that beauty is in the eye of the beholder there all beautiful! lindsey and nicole just need to work on there self esteem and quit trying to please everyone!besides id rather careless about what people think and be overweight than to try please everyone and die in the process!
SO , do you have a boyfriend ? Cus if you don’t , please drop me a line . Full figured and healthy is always better than anarexic and fake .
What have we become as a society? Everyone who has left their opinion on these pictures has a valid point…. because it is their opinion. However, who are we to sit back, look at pictures of 3 fellow human beings and judge them? We don’t know their backgrounds, their life stories, their real struggles and triumphs… we know what is fed to us thru a tube by the bitch that has really raised us all: The Almighty Media. Each picture, headline, news story and internet exclusive is rapidly forming our opinions and views on complete strangers whom we seem to feel we know and can hate, love, critize and praise. Its very sad and is trickling down into the younger generations who are the keys to this countrys future. Self image problems don’t just affect the sufferer, its a life style. We need to quit being so critical about ourselves and everyone around us. Stop attacking people for the way they look… skinny, fat, athletic, on the soft side, ugly, beautiful, homely…. See the person, not what they look like.